Gwen, A very good point and to the others that offered insight to Firmin's request I am sure he was aware of the points you all made. I am going to ask that those of you who have not responded just read over the request and maybe you see what I see when I read it. A REQUEST. Regardless of motivation behind it, one of US (MSU TECHNICAL COMMUNITY MEMBER) asked for consideration that is all. Hell, I fit into several categories myself according to U.S. Government, Political Viewpoints, Religious and Gender, and within my own Cultural Realm to boot, but my most important role as an MSU citizen is that of being a Union Rep for the A.P.A. and I have observed this topic with a careful eye. So my request to it all is just give Firmin the consideration of his request; you don't have to publically acknowledge it, just read it and try to understand.
Sincerely,
Timo
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gwen Pearson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 10:29 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] EBS addresses for whitelisting
Hey, here's a thought. Why not think about this from some other position than male white privilege?
Our society uses a few things to define "normality."
We value maleness. We value Christianity. We value heterosexuality. We value wealth. We value youth. And, yes: we value whiteness.
If you are not someone who fits in those categories (or worse, like me, you strike out on multiple categories), you spend a lot of time feeling left out and othered in this culture.
In this situation:
Someone tells you a technical term you used makes them uncomfortable.
There are alternative terms available that supply more precision.
It's not a major effort to make a slight change in terminology.
So, why in the world would you NOT use an alternative term?
It's not being "politically correct"--It's being *polite* and considerate of others.
This is an opportunity.
Why not think about what you can learn from the way in which another person sees an issue, rather than defending the status quo?
Now, can we please go back to discussing technology, i.e, the purpose of this list?
