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So far, I've found filehippo.com to be the single best source for the latest versions of things. Not perfect, but they usually have something available within a day or so. Thus my question of what you do, other than going to 30+ sites every few days? I've never seen a source which talks of academic software versions. That might be neat. Thoughts? -- STeve Andre' Disease Control Warden Dept. of Political Science Michigan State University A day without Windows is like a day without a nuclear incident.