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I was VERY impressed with the Ninja Blade demo at the last Exchange User's Group, and if their software solution can do as good a job, I'd be very interested in researching it more. That said, Microsoft Antigen, which I believe has been replaced with Forefront Security for Exchange in Exchange 2007, is kinda lame as an antispam tool. For antivirus, I like it. But for spam, I could never really get the filters to work right, so I shut them off. I've gone through the Best Practices documentation, but it just never seems effective. If anyone's had any success with it, I'd LOVE to have a chat :) As far as pricing for that goes, it requires Enterprise licenses for the users, so it adds I believe $7/person, and I think it needs Enterprise licenses for the Exchange server itself. All in all, it'd end up cheaper than Ninja, but like I said, I could never get the filters to really accurately block spam. However, just running Outlook itself, with the Junk Filter set to High, blocks almost 100% of the crap I normally get. I would say on average I get several hundred spam messages a week and maybe five might get to the Inbox. This is with Outlook 2007, but the filter technology is roughly the same as in Outlook 2003. Jon Jon Galbreath MCSE/Security+ Systems Administrator International Studies and Programs Ph: 517-884-2144 [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 11:39 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MSUNAG] Antispam for exchange Revisited. In the continuing search for the perfect antispam tool, our department is currently evaluating sunbelt's Ninja software. There are two things that make Ninja very appealing over most of the other solutions I've seen: 1. It's price point (we only have 25 users in our department) and 2, it's tight integration with Outlook (my director is very much in favor of an outlook spam/junk folder as opposed to users logging into a web interface.). As it stands, Ninja would be my solution of choice but for one very unfortunate flaw, which at least in our case is a total deal breaker. Keyboard accessibility to the Ninja console UI is very poor. I would be the person responsible for administering the system and since I don't use a mouse... Well, you can see the problem. I've been in contact with Sunbelt support and management, and they've promised to add section 508 compliancy to their to do list; but, I'm not exactly holding my breath in expectation of a quick fix. Are there any Ninja competitors which offer a similar system at a similar price point? Sunbelt quoted us a 3 year 25 user license for $583.55. The only solution I've seen thus far that appears to be similar is Microsoft's Antigen; but, I haven't spent a lot of time studying or pricing it out yet. Thanks in advance for any thoughts or info, Al Puzzuoli Information Technologist Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 517-884-1915 120 Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 http://www.rcpd.msu.edu