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Leo Sell meant to post the following reply to the MSUNAG list, so I am posting it for him. As usual, he cuts right through the baloney and gets out some answers, which is all that I asked. Just having these few rough numbers already puts my mind at ease. Thank you Leo. -- dkm ------------------------------------------ > For the record, here is the request that I just put to our APA President. > > Subject: Comparison table of union dues > > Maury, > > I don't know if you have tuned in to the discussion about APA dues on the MSUNAG mailing list. Throughout this discussion, I have requested one little thing in order to give me some perspective. I just want to see a table that lists *all* the bargaining units on campus, along with what the monthly dues would be for an imagined member earning, say, $50,000/year (even if no one in fact earns that much). I would not mind if it also came with explanatory footnotes, as I suspect such a table may not represent the true complexity of matters, but I insist on this as a start to my thinking. OK, David, seems like a reasonable request. I am pounding out a quick, off the top of my head answer (not the full table, just some of the facts as best I know / recall that I'm recalling from my tenure). (Just as the debate is about to begin, so this is really gonna be offhand). I'm speaking here as a "grizzled veteran" and primarily as an individual and not as an officer or official spokesperson. Therefore, I will keep this to simple fact as I know it and simply leave it at that. Average APA salary is around $53,000, $4116 gross per month, or $25 per hour. Common dues assessment is 2 hours per month, equal in this example then, to $50 per month. AFSCME 1585 - 2 hours per month AFSCME 999 - 2 hours per month IUOE 547 - uses a formula that for a $50k worker would result in dues of $56 per month CTU - essentially 2 hours per month FOP - I actually do not know, but I don't think they are outside the roughly 2 hour per month norm. APSA - $15 or $16 per month. That's it for what I'll pitch in to this discussion. I'll leave further comment to APA leadership as official spokespersons. -- -- Leo Sell ATS Help Desk