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So it's friday night and I'm here at home fighting the Juniper VPN to get my Ubuntu laptop connected to campus - the issue stems from the fact that the Juniper people wrote the VPN for Red Hat and so you have to use workarounds to get the VPN to work on other (non-rpm) platforms, Ubuntu being a special pain sometimes. I've mostly got it set except that it keeps dying with incorrect credentials because I can't quite seem to figure out what realm I'm supposed to be connecting to. The techbase has proven to be no assistance. Can anyone shed any light? Thanks, ---- Jack Kramer Computer Systems Specialist University Relations, Michigan State University 517-884-1231