No, more like terminally disgusted.  We're talking about a company that
has created a world-wide standard of an operating system, which has
helped the world considerably.  I remember the days of individual op
systems, all entirely incompatible and generally strange.

But MS did not care about security.  Not one bit.  I have talked with
three software people who once worked there who were publically
excoriated by none other than Bill Gates himself, for expressing "The
dumbest idea I've ever heard" when talking about issues that related
to security and reliability.  How MS has managed to avoid massive
ostracism for creating this OS--or rather, how MS managed to teach
the average person that a computer "naturally" blows up, slows down,
gets sick, crashes and is difficult to use is one of the most amazing
PR jobs in history.

Windows has some good points.  Its existence has created a playing
field unequal to anything that has ever come before it.

But at an unbelievable cost: hundreds of billions of dollars in total
on "security" and security related incidents over Window's lifetime.

THAT is what I am disgusted at.

--STeve Andre'

On Thursday 26 June 2008 14:58:14 Ehren Benson wrote:

Haters....  :/

Ehren J. Benson, MCSE

Windows Systems Administrator

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From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On

Behalf Of STeve Andre' Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:27 PM

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Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] XP or Vista Antivirus 2008 ..... Here is one

mechanism of infection

That was me...

--STeve Andre'

On Thursday 26 June 2008 14:09:30 Tom Rockwell wrote:

Interesting Diane Rehm show yesterday

http://wamu.org/programs/dr/08/06/25.php

Listen for the caller from MSU unloading on Windows.  :-)

-Tom

John Valenti wrote:

Which humans are you referring to?

(I'm assuming you mean the people who click to follow a random link

in my rant...)

Where is the outrage about the crappy OS? We are now in a world where

people infect their computers by clicking on a link, and we blame the

victims?  I could see the Internet developing in the late '80s and if

you would have told me it would turn out similarly to the current

Windows situation I would have laughed at you. What set of

intelligent people would let things get to this state!

-John

On June 26, at 2:14 PM June 26, Robert Kriegel wrote:

Yup,

Unfortunately, its the humans whose risky behavior security patches

still refuse to stick too.  I guess Ron White is right.

Bob Kriegel

Animal Science

At 11:42 AM 6/26/2008, you wrote:

Holy crud -- I got a message about a disaster in China that has

killed "millions", and a web site to see video.  At that point I was

offered beijing.exe, which clam didn't know about as of an hour

ago.  So its definitely spreading.

--STeve Andre'