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Amen -t On Jun 26, 2008, at 3:21 PM, STeve Andre' wrote: > No, more like terminally disgusted. We're talking about a company > that > has created a world-wide standard of an operating system, which has > helped the world considerably. I remember the days of individual op > systems, all entirely incompatible and generally strange. > > But MS did not care about security. Not one bit. I have talked with > three software people who once worked there who were publically > excoriated by none other than Bill Gates himself, for expressing "The > dumbest idea I've ever heard" when talking about issues that related > to security and reliability. How MS has managed to avoid massive > ostracism for creating this OS--or rather, how MS managed to teach > the average person that a computer "naturally" blows up, slows down, > gets sick, crashes and is difficult to use is one of the most amazing > PR jobs in history. > > Windows has some good points. Its existence has created a playing > field unequal to anything that has ever come before it. > > But at an unbelievable cost: hundreds of billions of dollars in total > on "security" and security related incidents over Window's lifetime. > > THAT is what I am disgusted at. > > --STeve Andre' > > On Thursday 26 June 2008 14:58:14 Ehren Benson wrote: >> Haters.... :/ >> >> Ehren J. Benson, MCSE >> Windows Systems Administrator >> >> [log in to unmask] >> 517-884-5469 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >> On >> Behalf Of STeve Andre' Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:27 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] XP or Vista Antivirus 2008 ..... Here is one >> mechanism of infection >> >> That was me... >> >> --STeve Andre' >> >> On Thursday 26 June 2008 14:09:30 Tom Rockwell wrote: >>> Interesting Diane Rehm show yesterday >>> http://wamu.org/programs/dr/08/06/25.php >>> >>> Listen for the caller from MSU unloading on Windows. :-) >>> >>> -Tom >>> >>> John Valenti wrote: >>>> Which humans are you referring to? >>>> >>>> (I'm assuming you mean the people who click to follow a random link >>>> in my rant...) >>>> >>>> Where is the outrage about the crappy OS? We are now in a world >>>> where >>>> people infect their computers by clicking on a link, and we blame >>>> the >>>> victims? I could see the Internet developing in the late '80s >>>> and if >>>> you would have told me it would turn out similarly to the current >>>> Windows situation I would have laughed at you. What set of >>>> intelligent people would let things get to this state! >>>> -John >>>> >>>> On June 26, at 2:14 PM June 26, Robert Kriegel wrote: >>>>> Yup, >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, its the humans whose risky behavior security >>>>> patches >>>>> still refuse to stick too. I guess Ron White is right. >>>>> >>>>> Bob Kriegel >>>>> Animal Science >>>>> >>>>> At 11:42 AM 6/26/2008, you wrote: >>>>>> Holy crud -- I got a message about a disaster in China that has >>>>>> killed "millions", and a web site to see video. At that point >>>>>> I was >>>>>> offered beijing.exe, which clam didn't know about as of an hour >>>>>> ago. So its definitely spreading. >>>>>> >>>>>> --STeve Andre' -- Troy Murray Systems Administrator Michigan State University Biomedical Research and Informatics Center (BRIC) 100 Conrad Hall East Lansing, MI 48824 Phone: 517-432-4248 Fax: 517-353-9420 E-mail: [log in to unmask] Calendar HTML - http://www.icalx.com/html/troymurray72/month.php?cal=Work iCalendar - http://www.icalx.com/public/troymurray72/Work.ics