IRC is not exactly a good choice for the business end of the university,
bots bots and more bots...
Jabber was a nice solution for the business that needed the ease of
quick messages to laptop users moving across the enterprise, because all
content was on the privately ran and owned Jabber server.
It was the day an executive killed the dream when making the argument
using AIM, was the only way he could keep in contact with his children
while they were home alone for two hours after school. That then
reopened the whole I closed and people started using Trillian to govern
all their chat programs... at that time the cell phone companies
started adding yahoo and icq and aim to the embedded chipset. So there
went Jabber completely because people wanted both contact types "work"
and "personal" together.
I found a need to be compliant and was proactive with jabber and had
over 70 percent of the employee who used chat for work communications to
use Jabber and none of the public services. The remaining thirty
percent agreed to not use public chat for work because they really only
used it for personal commo, and uninstalled it. I had two great
quarters with minimal risk exposure until that executive got in our
presidents ear.
Higher Ed scares me to a degree that I am not sure what the goal is with
data communications, business communications then finally day to day
transactions as it pertains to the rules governing the medium used.
Timo Vasquez- D.S.S. Team Member
Michigan State University
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-----Original Message-----
From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Peter J Murray
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] IT Collaboration Tools
Things aren't going to be used unless they are easy to use.
Instead of IRC, why not this?
http://www.tufat.com/s_flash_chat_chatroom.htm
It's $5, and it's much easier to open a new tab then to fire up an IRC
client, connect, set nicks, etc.
Matt Kolb wrote:
> On Oct 17, 2007, at 2:58 PM, Ray Hernandez wrote:
>
>> Since we are talking about collaboration, is there any interest in
>> "corporate" instant messaging? Our department has expressed interest
>> in the past in having instant messaging that would be internal to our
>> group. We haven't actually made the jump yet, but I have played
>> around with it.
>>
>> We have toyed around with the idea of rolling out a Jabber server.
>> The software we liked was
>> Openfire(http://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/openfire/index.jsp).
>> It has support for LDAP and Kerberos, which makes it n easy fit for
>> us since we could use our MSU kerberos service for authentication.
>>
>> The nice thing about Openfire is that it can interface with other
>> Jabber-compatible service providers so you can add people from
>> outside the university to your buddy list and it takes care of the
>> rest of the mojo.
>>
>> I'd love to see a campus messaging service like that, but maybe
>> external providers are sufficient enough for our campus.
>
> We've been using IRC at ACNS for some years now
> (http://irc.acns.msu.edu). I'd like to see a chat server that was
> used more broadly (and was provisioned from centrally).
>
> I'm not a jabber fan, but I understand why it would make sense to
> choose that option. Do any other departments use IRC or other chat
> which they host?
>
> ./mk
>
