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On May 24, 2007, at 4:35 PM, Lounds, Victor wrote: > Is this horse dead yet? If this horse isn't dead yet, can someone put it out of its misery? I don't see how having google manage our email is going to solve some kind of magic problem. If all anyone really cares about is having an MSU front-end to google's *existing* service then use one of the 438743982743 hacks to give google that MSU look. You can have google now, why do we need some kind of special back door dealing with them? Anyone can sign up for a free account. Right now I tell people to email me at my MSU address and it goes to gmail. When I send mail from gmail, it appears to people to be coming from my MSU address. So what does having google in our machine room buy us? Nothing that we don't already have. I don't see why MSU needs to compete with service providers. Scrooge McDuck always said, "Work smarter not harder." Hell if these places want to provide free services, I say we exploit what is already there. I don't see the need to enter into an unnecessary agreement with a company who's interests have nothing to do with our own. In fact I would say their interests are questionable if they are so excited for universities to jump on board so badly that they will give away the milk for free. I say they can have msu.edu when they pry it from our cold dead hands. --Ray