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Thanks for nothing Microsoft. I have no plans to install Vista on any of my machines. The negatives far out weigh the positives for me. I don't need the DRM problems. I had an ethernet card quit working after the latest XP upgrades and the result was that I was locked out of the hard disk because the system couldn't access the network for validation? I had to install a new ethernet card in order to access my files on one of my own computers? What's up with that!!!! Yes I had backup files, but this kind of problem is totally unnecessary, and it will be much worse with Vista. Cliff - Clifford L. Beckett office: 517-355-4659 Electronic System Designer cell: 517-449-8226 A411 E. Fee fax: 517-353-0789 OMM Department email: [log in to unmask] Michigan State University web: www.obl.msu.edu East Lansing MI, 48824