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With help from Chris Wolf we were able to retrieve an installation application (install_flash_player_active_x.exe) from Adobe to install Flash Player 8 that did not require access to a browser or the Internet to install. However, I am unable to find a corresponding application for Flash Player 9. I have seen references to FlashPlayer9.msi, but this apparently is available to people that apply for a free redistribution license (http://www.adobe.com/licensing/distribution/). We are also using Contribute 4, and under some circumstances, it tries to install Flash Player 9 even if the machine already has Flash Player 8,0,24,0. Does anyone know if MSU has applied for a redistribution license for the Flash, Shockwave and Acrobat Readers? Or a place to download an installation application that can run silent, or semi-automated? Note that there is a v8 uninstall at http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/current/uninstall_flash_playe r.exe There is an install package for v9 for Netscape at the same location, but I was unable to guess a name for an activeX installation package. It's not the same as the v8 package. -Stefan p.s. The circumstance where Contribute 4 tries to install Flash Player 9 might be when the machine does not have the file %systemroot%\system32\Macromed\Flash\mms.cfg with the following line in it: AutoUpdateDisable=1 I've installed Contribute 4 on two machines, and the one that had mms.cfg did not attempt to install Flash Player 9 when I started up Contribute. Stefan Ozminski Computer Services W.K. Kellogg Biological Station Michigan State University 199-4427 (from campus)