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Like you, we keep our own copies of full installers for most of these things, storing them on a network share and doing all our installs from there rather than over the web. For some programs, it can be tricky to find the full download, and I recall Flash Player being one of them. What we have (downloaded in April) are flashplayer7_winax.exe, which is the installer for IE (the "ax" means ActiveX), and flashplayer7_win.exe for Netscape/Firefox. If you want, I could look at the Macromedia site again and figure out how I got to those. I think there was a link to more information or perhaps a "trouble downloading?" link that eventually got me to the full installer. I suspect if you poke around a little more at their site you'll be able to find them. Of course, I would email them to you if you want. At 05:08 PM 7/6/2005, John Gorentz wrote: >I'm trying to get Macromedia Flash 7 installed on some of our "locked-down" computers (Windows 2000). > >I have a policy of never doing installs over the web, because that way I have no control over the exact version that I'm installing. I might violate that policy if I go about it carefully enough, but in general I think it's a bad way to manage software. I want to have the installation file for everything I install, so I can re-do it if it should become necessary. > >Macromedia's web site says you can sign a license agreement and then they will give you a means to install it internally on your intranet. I presume but do not know for sure that that means they'd give me an executable installation file. However, their license agreement contains a rather vicious clause, saying that when they send me subsequent updates, that I must promise to install them "as soon as practical." I suppose there is enough latitude in the definition of "practical" to meet any reasonable requirements I have, but that's a nasty way of doing business. > >There is a file floating around called flash7installer.exe. It will put a file in the IE plugin folder, but it doesn't make flash work. I presume it does some mucking with the registry, too. > >I'm comfortable operating my computer as a Flash-free zone, and in fact would prefer to. But I don't always get to do things the way I prefer. > >I am not completely out of ideas, but I'm wondering if anyone else is as cranky as I am about this issue and has come up with a solution. > >John Gorentz >W.K. Kellogg Biological Station > >Slogan: Down with Flash and fascism! Up with literacy and democracy! --Chris ============================================== Chris Wolf Computer Service Manager Agricultural Economics [log in to unmask] Michigan State University 517 353-5017