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In case anyone was wondering, from http://contact.cl.msu.edu/status/status_summary.php at 4:09 pm "MichNet service outage affecting off-campus internet traffic as of 3:30pm, 7/12/04 All off-campus traffic is affected by a MichNet service outage. Outage began around 3:30 pm, 7/12/04. Estimated repair time unknown. This notice will be updated when more information becomes available." --Chris ============================================== Chris Wolf Computer Service Manager Agricultural Economics [log in to unmask] Michigan State University 517 353-5017