I got completely incorrect information on MSU netid passwords. Passwords can be 1 to 15 characters in length, and they are case sensitive. You get an absurd error message if you use a longer password, but at least it complains. This was obtained from using the form at netid.msu.edu changing my password many times. The consultant I talked to is giving out horrid information. I asked multiple times if she was talking about passwords, so she believed this. *sigh* I'm going to attempt talking with them about this. STeve Andre' Political Science