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Arial BlackAccording to the student Employment Office it's all based on what level the students are hired at. Mine are hired at Level 2 and may or may not be upgraded to Level 3 after a year or two. The following information was taken from: http://www.csp.msu.edu/seo/rates.cfm Level I: $6.27 - $7.80 Level II: $6.81 - $8.51 Level III: $7.43 - $9.26 Level IV: $8.10 - $11.18 Level V: $10.25 - $14.49 :) Missy Koos Webmistress & Database Developer Student Affair & Services Michigan State University 113 Student Services Building East Lansing, MI 48824 517.355.9510 x138 Arial On Monday, October 13, 2003, at 10:59 AM, John Resotko wrote: While I know that anything related to HR is a sensitive subject, I'm attempting to justify an increase in the starting salary I offer to students in my Technology Department.  The common answer I usually receive from upper management is "what are other MSU departments paying?" whenever I try to make any increase. So, my question is for anyone using student employees in technical positions, be it on your own help desk, or configuring and troubleshooting PCs, or in any job where a minimum level of technical knowledge and skill are required to be hired.   My question to NAG is what are you offering as a starting hourly wage to student "techies"?  I know we all compete with each other for good student help, so I understand if you are unwilling to reply.  Also, if you prefer not to share this information publicly, please email me directly at 1999,1999,FFFF[log in to unmask] and I will keep that information confidential if you wish.  My thanks for any feedback you are willing to provide.     John A. Resotko Head of Systems Administration MSU - Detroit College of Law 208 Law College Building East Lansing, MI  48824-1300 email: 1999,1999,FFFF[log in to unmask] Phone: 517-432-6836 Fax: 517-432-6861