That message with the attachment was for Fred with his lockout problem. Here's the message I sent him. Sorry I sent the attachment reply to the entire group. This might help you? It's a hacker tool called Sechole2.. I normally wouldn't believe it, but if you search Micro$oft's site you'll see them refer to it in white papers. It's supposed to be able to give *any* user that runs it full administrator rights on an NT 3.51 or 4.0 system. Run it, reboot, then the user that ran it has full admin rights. I read of your plight and found this on www.astalavista.com Joe Norton Network Technician MSUFCU [log in to unmask]