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MSUNAG July 2011

Subject:

Re: EBS vs. browsers again

From:

David McFarlane <[log in to unmask]>

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David McFarlane <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 7 Jul 2011 10:51:00 -0400

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Esther,

Thank you for your reply.  I beg to differ.  The issue is whether the 
the fault is due to the browser, or due to the web application that 
wishes to run in the browser.  If a web application (i.e., EBS) is 
implemented using known deprecated non-standard browser functions, 
and newer browsers, drop support for those non-standard functions in 
favor of well-established standards, then the fault lies with the web 
application, *not* the web browsers.  In fact, if you are waiting 
until IE, FF, and the rest change their code to make EBS run again, 
well I think that wait will never end.  Browser makers will win this 
battle, and it is incumbent upon the EBS developers to adapt to 
well-established modern web standards, not the other way around.

So I stand by my statement -- the notice on the EBS home screen 
should indeed read, "We are working to determine when the system 
software will support Firefox 4 and Firefox 5 (for both Windows
and Mac) and Internet Explorer 9."

-- dkm


At 7/6/2011 08:06 AM Wednesday, Esther V. V. Reed wrote:
>I believe the statement is correct and FF 4 & 5, and IE9 may not
>currently support EBS.  We had a few users upgrade to FF 4 and IE 9 in
>the past couple of weeks, and found problems with both browsers when
>using the HR / SAP modules (SAP hung or crashed or froze or threw
>continual errors).  We have since downgraded those PCs to FF 3.5 or 3.6,
>and IE8, which eliminated those problems.  We have also disabled the
>auto-upgrade settings for FF.
>
>  ~ Esther
>
>Esther V. V. Reed
>IT Systems Administrator
>MSU Graduate School
>[log in to unmask]
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David McFarlane [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 4:13 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: [MSUNAG] EBS vs. browsers again
>
>When I go to the EBS home screen, I find the following notice from way
>back on 3/23/2011:
>
>"Internet Explorer and Firefox have released new versions of their
>respective browsers. Currently, both are unsupported by EBS. We are
>working to determine when Firefox 4 and Firefox 5 (for both Windows and
>Mac) and Internet Explorer 9 will support the system software. It is
>recommended to use Firefox 3.6 or Internet Explorer 8, as your work
>requires, on your system and use it to access EBS Portal applications."
>
>Isn't that backward?  Don't FF 4 & 5, and IE9, already support EBS?
>Shouldn't that instead read, "We are working to determine when the
>system software will support Firefox 4 and Firefox 5 (for both Windows
>and Mac) and Internet Explorer 9"?
>
>Whom do I contact to make the correction?
>
>-- dkm

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