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Re: Some thoughts about a new email system for MSU

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Michael Surato <[log in to unmask]>

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Michael Surato <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:18:17 -0400

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That is correct. I was simply stating that it is on my wish list, and
would solve the issue of calendar sharing across disparate systems.
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|      College of Arts and Letters          |
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>>> On 9/17/2008 at 9:14 AM, MSU Network Administrators Group wrote:
> To my knowledge, a "free-busy 
> aggregator for calendaring" isn't included in this upgrade, is that 
> correct?

-t



On Sep 17, 2008, at 8:55 AM, 
> Michael Surato wrote:


> 
This sounds great, and was put forward for serious consideration.
However, the needs of the 
> University are too diverse to allow for a
cohesive solution as this 
> case study presents. Therefore, the university
is pursing a "least 
> common denominator" solution and leaving it up to
the individual units 
> to provide something else if desired. This has the
advantage of 
> customizing to the needs of the individual unit with the
disadvantage 
> of requiring trusts between systems for some of the items
you have 
> listed below. Given the correct systems are put in place
centrally 
> (say a free-busy aggregator for calendaring), this is a
workable 
> solution and can provide for most requirements the university
is 
> looking for. However, this will require several changes to both

> methodology and culture to make happen.

In the meantime, this 
> is a good step forward for what we have
currently.
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>      College of Arts and 
> Letters          |
|      Michigan State University    
>        
>  |
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>       320 Linton 
> Hall                |
|        East Lansing, MI 48824   
>        
>    |
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On 9/17/2008 at 8:37 AM, Laurence Bates wrote:


I was surprised to find this morning that a new email system has been


announced.  Yes, I know, it’s only a new web interface but it will
be

> perceived as a new email system and so we may as well acknowledge
that. 
A part of my confusion is that I was under the impression that ATS 
> was
investigating the use of Microsoft Exchange for faculty and staff. 
>  If
that is the case then college administrators should know 
> about this plan
before deciding what to do about the new web front end 
> to Mail.  



And here comes the 
> difficult part since I don’t want to be either
unkind or to ignore 
> fiscal limitations, but the second part of my
confusion is the quite 
> frankly klunky nature of the proposed web
interface for Mail.  I understand the problems in building an add-on
to
a home 
> brewed system, and I am not necessarily opposed to local
development 
> of some systems.  They have their place, but the bar has

> already been raised for email and calendaring systems and
expectations

> are necessarily high.  






For what it is worth, I am moving towards the view that, rather than
concede email and 
> calendar development to Google, which this new
interface effectively 
> does, MSU should be aggressively seeking to build
a full-fledged MSU 
> community with real-time unified communications *
i.e. state of the 
> art point-of-presence, email and calendar pushing to
iPod Touch 
> devices (for example), Pre-filled calendar class schedules
for 
> students, pre-built class email lists, readily available web

> conferencing, and multi-point video conferencing between students
and

> faculty.  



These tools are available 
> today, and no, they are not cheap, but then
neither is a less than 
> optimally effective and motivated student body or
a 
> less-than-committed alumni group.  If MSU has set its goals on
becoming a world integrating community, then community building, in 
> my
view, had best begin at home.



<
> http://www.wainhouse.com/files/papers/wr-case-sfsu.pdf
<http://www.wainhouse.com/files/papers/wr-case-sfsu.pdf>>

> 





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Laurence A. Bates




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University





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Troy Murray

> Systems/Database Administrator
Michigan State University

> Biomedical Research and Informatics Center (BRIC)
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