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MSUNAG  May 2008

MSUNAG May 2008

Subject:

Re: Mail Forwarding

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"Surato, Michael S." <[log in to unmask]>

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Surato, Michael S.

Date:

Fri, 2 May 2008 11:30:53 -0400

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True, which is why I often have the user use rules, rather than a simple
forward. You could, for example, have the mail.msu.edu system tag the
subject line when it detects SPAM, and then have a rule that states that
all messages are forwarded. This will create a longer queue as the
mail.msu.edu system does more processing, but the offset is that it has
more information.

+-------------------------------------------+
|            Michael Surato                 |
|      College of Arts and Letters          |
|      Michigan State University            |
|            320 Linton Hall                |
|        East Lansing, MI 48824             |
| Voice: (517) 353-0778 Fax: (517) 355-0159 |
+-------------------------------------------+ 
  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: MSU Network Administrators Group 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Adam McDougall
> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 9:45 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Mail Forwarding
> 
> I would like to mention that if the mail comes directly to 
> your mail server (mx) without forwarding, more original 
> information is preserved that is useful for AntiSpam 
> processing, and also you can chose to do more/less/different 
> blacklist or greylist rejection/delaying of email.  
> Basically, the original mail server accepting the request has 
> the most information available regarding the mail's source, 
> while mail servers down the line have less, and have to base 
> their Spam decisions on the content of the mail.  Aside from 
> less accuracy at detecting Spam, some corner cases could 
> cause the opportunity for false positives to rise.
> I've seen this happen.  
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 09:32:10AM -0400, Jon Galbreath wrote:
> 
>   You understood perfectly.  And it sounds like we were on 
> the same page as
>   far as the outcome.  Perhaps I'll leave it up to the end 
> user whether or not
>   to designate the @isp.msu.edu address on business cards or 
> correspondence,
>   since that would eliminate the potential forwarding delays, 
> despite them
>   being rare.
>   
>   Thanks for the info!
>   
>   Jon Galbreath
>   MCSA/MCSE/Security+
>   Network/Systems Administrator
>   International Studies and Programs
>   Ph: 517-884-2144
>   [log in to unmask]
>   
>   
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: MSU Network Administrators Group 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>   Behalf Of Brian Martinez
>   Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 9:13 AM
>   To: [log in to unmask]
>   Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Mail Forwarding
>   
>   Jon Galbreath wrote:
>   >
>   > All,
>   >
>   > We are moving forward with our move from mail.msu.edu to 
> an in-house
>   > Exchange installation. During the most recent Q&A session 
> I suggested
>   > that we leave everyone's address as the standard @msu.edu 
> address and
>   > just forward it into Exchange to make it easy if you ever 
> leave our
>   > unit and also to keep from having to update distribution 
> lists with
>   > new email addresses.
>   >
>   > One person asked about what happens when mail.msu.edu has another
>   > hiccup like the one that happened a couple weeks back where mail
>   > clients and the web interface were both offline. Would mail still
>   > forward on?
>   >
>   > My best recollection was that messages weren't bouncing 
> and were just
>   > queuing on the servers but we couldn't access them. If 
> that were the
>   > case, would a mail forwarder (not a filter, just a 
> straight forward)
>   > still pass mail on even if mail.msu.edu were down?
>   >
>   > Thanks for your help!
>   >
>   Jon,
>   
>   If I'm understanding what you are asking correctly the 
> answer is, yes
>   mail will still forward on, but only when mail.msu.edu is 
> back up. In
>   the situation where everything is down, the original 
> sender's will queue
>   up the message on their end as "Host unreachable" and their SMTP
>   software will attempt to retry every so often (it all 
> depends on what
>   their config is).
>   
>   If mail is up and running but just being hammered down and 
> "unreachable" 
>   to our users, chances are pretty great that we will be the 
> ones queuing
>   up the emails waiting to forward them on when the 
> queue-runners get to it.
>   
>   To sum up, email should always (eventually, heh) be coming 
> through. Let
>   me know if I misunderstood.
>   
>   Regards,
>   ./brm
>   
> 

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