FYI - I have been asked to meet with ACNS staff to address many of the questions posed this morning. We plan to develop an FAQ in the next few days.
Debbie
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From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Troy Murray
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 9:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Fwd: Avoid Google Apps, Gmail, Microsoft Live Office for University business
So something more like a versioning system like Subversion?
-t
On Nov 5, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Surato, Michael S. wrote:
> Not exactly. What people are looking for is a way of having several
> people to have the same document open at the same time. The manner
> they want is for any changes to the document from one person, show
> up in real time to the document in everyone else. What netfiles
> allow is for several people to have the same document open, but
> they cannot "share the workspace".
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Troy Murray
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 9:11 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Fwd: Avoid Google Apps, Gmail, Microsoft Live
> Office for University business
>
> Does something like https://netfiles.msu.edu/, which you can assign
> permissions to users you specify, satisfy this need Nick?
>
> -t
>
>
> On Nov 5, 2007, at 9:07 AM, Kwiatkowski, Nicholas wrote:
>
>> I realize that I already asked this at the open forum a few weeks
>> ago,
>> but are there any plans for the university to support some sort of
>> document management system among different departments? I realize
>> that AFS is an option for file storage, but it really doesn't support
>> locking, or any conflict resolution for typed documents,
>> spreadsheets,
>> and presentations. This is very important with working with multiple
>> departments or groups on a single document. While I personally
>> didn't
>> use any Google Apps, I have used similar apps (Adobe Share and
>> Buzzword) that perform similar functions.
>>
>> -Nick Kwiatkowski
>> MSU Telecom Systems
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: MSU Network Administrators Group
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>> Behalf Of Tom Davis
>> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 12:16 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [MSUNAG] Fwd: Avoid Google Apps, Gmail, Microsoft Live
>> Office
>> for University business
>>
>> FYI. Dave Gift sent this to the Deans, Directors and Chairs list
>> yesterday. /Tom
>>
>>> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 13:32:01 -0400
>>> From: David A Gift <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: Avoid Google Apps, Gmail, Microsoft Live Office for
>>> University business
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>> To: Deans, Directors, Chairs
>>>
>>> From: David Gift, Vice Provost, Libraries, Computing and
>>> Technology
>>> David Brower, Assistant Vice President for Finance, CFO and
>>> Controller
>>> Linda O. Stanford, Associate Provost for Academic Services
>>> Michael Poterala, Assistant Vice President for Research and
>>> Graduate Studies and Executive Director, MSU Technologies
>>>
>>> Subject: Avoiding use of online software tools such as Google Apps,
>>> Gmail, and Microsoft Office Live
>>>
>>> Please share this message with faculty and staff in your units.
>>>
>>> Google, Microsoft, and other companies are offering, at no
>>> charge, an
>>> increasingly diverse set of online, web-based software tools,
>>> many of
>>> which provide standard “office†functions such as
>>> document and
>>> slide deck production and management, spreadsheeting and
>>> communications, including e-mail. These tools run on company
>>> (vendor) servers, and user files and other content are stored on
>>> company systems as well. The no-cost option is attractive to many
>>> University units, faculty and staff. However, due to the terms of
>>> use and business models being applied to these tools, they MAY
>>> NOT be
>>> used in the conduct of University work.
>>>
>>> To illustrate one concern, the terms to which you agree when you use
>>> Google Apps
>>> (http://www.google.com/accounts/TOS?hl=en)
>>> include the following; which compromises the University’s
>>> intellectual property rights and the security of University records:
>>>
>>> “You [user] retain copyright and any other rights you
>>> already hold
>>> in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the
>>> Services. BY SUBMITTING, POSTING OR DISPLAYING THE CONTENT YOU GIVE
>>> GOOGLE A PERPETUAL, IRREVOCABLE, WORLDWIDE, ROYALTY-FREE, AND
>>> NON-EXCLUSIVE LICENSE TO REPRODUCE, ADAPT, MODIFY, TRANSLATE,
>>> PUBLISH, PUBLICLY PERFORM, PUBLICLY DISPLAY AND DISTRIBUTE ANY
>>> CONTENT WHICH YOU SUBMIT, POST OR DISPLAY ON OR THROUGH, THE
>>> SERVICES. … You agree that this license INCLUDES A RIGHT FOR
>>> GOOGLE
>>> TO MAKE SUCH CONTENT AVAILABLE TO OTHER COMPANIES, ORGANIZATIONS OR
>>> INDIVIDUALS WITH WHOM GOOGLE HAS RELATIONSHIPS for the provision of
>>> syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the
>>> provision of those services.†(emphasis
>>> added)
>>>
>>> Furthermore, neither Google nor Microsoft makes any promise to back
>>> up content, secure confidential or proprietary content, or provide
>>> free service for any particular period of time. If they change
>>> their
>>> minds about the business utility of this model, it may simply go
>>> away
>>> one day.
>>>
>>> Contract terms like these do not provide appropriate protection for
>>> University business records or documents. If software tools like
>>> these are used in instruction, they may compromise student
>>> intellectual property protections. They may also adversely affect
>>> commercialization or publication of intellectual property created by
>>> faculty. Because individuals frequently do not know that they are
>>> creating University business records, including student records, in
>>> the course of doing their daily work at MSU, ANY use of these sorts
>>> of online tools must be avoided.
>>> Individuals or units contemplating use of any software tool or
>>> online
>>> service should carefully read and consider the terms of use, and
>>> seek
>>> appropriate legal or other review from University administrative
>>> offices when terms of use are incompatible with University policy or
>>> exceed the relevant administrator’s authority.
>>
>
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