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Thanks Gary. So what are other admins on campus doing about their Eudora users? Or do we have so few of them left that it does not matter anymore? And does anyone have any idea why Eudora users are so darn stubborn anyway? -- dkm At 9/24/2015 03:30 PM Thursday, Gary Schrock wrote: >David won't like my answer, and I know we've >discussed it before, but I think the real answer >is that Eudora's dead, and people using it are >just going to have to accept it at some >point. Eudora was last actively developed in >2006. Windows 7 was still 3 years from being >released at that point. I don't think it's >really all that unreasonable for places to say >they just aren't supporting it anymore. The >problems that it has aren't things that can >really be fixed without it being developed >further, because technology has changed, and the >way eudora expects things to work isn't how things work anymore. > >I think for most eudora users, Thunderbird is a >fairly reasonable alternative. I know David >doesn't like it, but back when I switched away >from eudora after I spent some time adjusting, I >was able to make it work the way I wanted. (I've >since given up and moved completely to gmail >myself, simply for phone integration ease.) > >I'm pretty sure gmail at least by default blocks >eudora. They have something on it that will >prevent older email clients from connecting, >although you can change that setting and it might then work. > >On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 2:39 PM, David McFarlane ><<mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]> wrote: >Could we entertain a discussion on how to deal >with Eudora on campus moving forward? > >First, what is the magnitude of the issue? Do >we have any idea how many of our users still use Eudora? > >If Eudora is so poor, why do these users stick >with it? How about if our e-mail team met with >actual Eudora users to work out a suitable upgrade path for them? > >What alternative POP3 or IMAP clients should >these users use instead? Should we allow POP3 >or IMAP at all? Why not make everyone use the >web client, and keep all their e-mail in the >cloud? Or why not just decree that henceforth >all Windows users may use only the one approved >POP3/IMAP client (e.g., Outlook)? > >Does Gmail support Eudora? If so, what about >having users forward all MSU e-mail to Gmail, >and then use Eudora to grab mail from >Gmail? That might make a very handy solution for those users. > >-- dkm