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I have been running 8.1 for a day now and still sucks. Matt -----Original Message----- From: John Valenti [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:04 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MSUNAG] Win 8.1 & OS X Mavericks This article says that Win8.1 RTM is available for volume license customers: http://www.zdnet.com/windows-8-1-rtm-whats-new-whats-next-7000020449/?s_cid=e539&ttag=e539 Is there a way I could get the media? Similarly for Mavericks ... I don't have an Apple developer account, but it seems like someone at MSU should have one that possibly allows me/us a beta copy? thanks -John Systems analyst HRLR PS - I have one professor that has a Surface Pro tablet and actually likes it quite a bit. Windows 8 hasn't clicked with me personally, but I'm hoping that 8.1 fixes that.