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Right -- but the only reason I have ever seen for non-OS hardware is for non Windows machines. --STeve Andre' On 06/24/13 17:44, Zakhem, Rachel wrote: > Please note that if you purchase blank machines, you can not use the > Windows 8 Upgrade licenses offered by the MSU Computer Store to put an > OS on them. The $85 Windows 8 Upgrade License with Software Assurance > and $54 Windows 8 Pro Upgrade License are *upgrade* licenses only. You > need to have a Windows OS on the machine before you can use them. > > > Rachel > > > > Rachel Zakhem > Michigan State University > IT Services > Site License Coordinator, MSU Computer Store > (517) 432-5367 > cstore.msu.edu <http://cstore.msu.edu> > > > On Jun 24, 2013, at 5:23 PM, STeve Andre' <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > wrote: > > I have gotten so many mixed signals on this that I have given up > and helped people build their own computers, from Newegg. Except > for laptops, it's been working. > > Lenovo claims to have Linux based Thinkpads, but twice now, they > denied their existence. They have also denied selling TP's without > disks, but I know someone who got 12 of them that way. > > So buying computers without the MS tax is hard. You might be > able to go to a local computer store and get an OS free machine > but beware that some stores automatically roll Windows into the > price. > > I'm all ears for new sources. > > --STeve Andre' > > On 06/24/13 09:43, Rivard, Ronald wrote: >> >> MSU’s Dell rep, Pat Hug [log in to unmask] >> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>, would be a good resource for some >> help. Pat can find out if Dell is currently able to upload an image >> without an OS. >> >> /ron rivard >> >> *From:*Wortz, Josh [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >> *Sent:* Monday, June 24, 2013 8:52 AM >> *To:* [log in to unmask] >> *Subject:* Re: [MSUNAG] Possible to Buy Dell or any other major brand >> Pc without an OS? >> >> You could use Dell ImageDirect. This allows you to pre-build your >> image through a web interface which allows you to enter your own keys >> or you can upload your own image. Then when you order your computers, >> you should be able to order them pre-imaged. I used this at a >> previous employer when I had to order dozens of laptops/desktops at a >> time. >> >> *Joshua Wortz* >> >> RHCT - RHEL5 | MCSE - 2K3 | MCTS - Exchange 2007 | MCTS - Vista - >> Configuration | MCDST >> >> Systems Administrator >> >> Collaborative Services & Support @ IT Services >> >> Michigan State University >> >> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>__ >> >> 517.432.5304 (Office) >> >> *From:* Al Puzzuoli [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >> *Sent:* Friday, June 21, 2013 12:01 PM >> *To:* [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> >> *Subject:* [MSUNAG] Possible to Buy Dell or any other major brand Pc >> without an OS? >> >> Hi all, >> >> We are looking at upgrading our department’s Assistive Technology lab >> this summer. We want to purchase all-in-one touch screen PCs, and are >> currently focusing on the Dell XPS27. I would prefer to buy something >> in the Optiplex line, perhaps the Optiplex 9020, except that in >> order to use some of our assistive technologies, we require HDMI in, >> and the optiplex apparently only offers HDMI out. I want to roll a >> Windows 8 Enterprise image out to all these machines, so really don’t >> see the need to spend money at time of purchase for an OS, but >> according to our Dell rep, they won’t sell us a machine without some >> version of Windows. He stated that the Windows 8 Enterprise >> licenses sold by our computer store are “upgrade only”, so we would >> be out of compliance with Microsoft in any case if we were to >> install that version to a bare machine. Can anyone shed more light on >> this? Is there any way to get around the waste of buying a machine >> with a version of Windows which will immediately be blown away and >> never used again? >> >> The rep did indicate they do offer the option of selling select >> machines with Linux installed but alas, they apparently don’t do that >> for any of the machines we are interested in. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Al Puzzuoli >> >> Michigan State University >> >> Information Technologist http://www.rcpd.msu.edu >> <http://www.rcpd.msu.edu/> >> >> Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities 517-884-1915 120 >> Bessey Hall East Lansing, MI 48824-1033 >> > >