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I'm wondering how long it will be until MS comes up with a Kinect interface for W8, so they can sell $$ hardware to everyone instead of requiring them to have touch screens. If you see me looking stupid waving my arms around while sitting in my office someday, that'll be why. Thomas P. Carter, Ph.D. Department of Chemistry Michigan State University 578 S. Shaw Lane East Lansing, MI 48824-1322