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I don't support students, so I don't care, and for those that DO support students, I guess you better just get used to seeing Windows 8. They're not going to know any difference and will buy whatever's on the shelf. And besides, it's just Windows 7 with a different interface. Most of Metro can be disabled to make it look like the non-Aero Win7. Jon Galbreath, MCSE Systems Administrator International Studies and Programs Helpdesk: 517-884-2148 Ph: 517-884-2144 [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: David McFarlane [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:30 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Windows 8 Reaches RTM Milestone OK, but what about all the students who come in with Win8 laptops and such that we will have to support? -- dkm At 8/6/2012 04:16 PM Monday, Jon Galbreath wrote: >I never deployed Vista machines. Anything that came with it was wiped >and Windows XP was installed. When 7 was available and before I had >the infrastructure in place to deploy it, I ordered machines with 7 and >the XP SP3 downgrade. Support won't end for Win7 until 1/14/2020, so >there's plenty of time to skip future releases. > >Jon Galbreath, MCSE >Systems Administrator >International Studies and Programs >Helpdesk: 517-884-2148 >Ph: 517-884-2144 >[log in to unmask] > >-----Original Message----- >From: David McFarlane [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:02 PM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Windows 8 Reaches RTM Milestone > >So, are folks really planning to keep ordering machines with Win7 >instead of Win8 as long as possible, and then reformat Win8 machines to >install Win7 after they can no longer buy machines with Win7? That's >fine, but, depite an earlier comment, it does seem to involve a lot of >"involuntary" action :). > >-- dkm > > >At 8/6/2012 03:51 PM Monday, Gary Schrock wrote: > >We were able to order machines with XP for a long time after Vista > >came out, can't remember if it was all the way up until 7 came out or not. > >Now, you couldn't walk into Best Buy and get a machine without Vista > >(for that matter, I think the home stores of the various PC > >manufactures didn't give the option, I think it was mainly their > >business oriented stores). There were some laptops that I ran into > >that were difficult to get drivers for XP, so that's really what to > >me became the biggest issue. 7 ended up decent enough that one > >didn't really need to avoid it. > > > >I'm guessing MS is going to get the same type of reaction from > >businesses for Win8 as they did for Vista, and get forced to keep Win > >7 around far longer than they might want to. > > > >On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM, David McFarlane <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Indeed, but can we ever voluntarily opt out of eventually > > deploying each new > > > version of Windows? Especially when it becomes impossible to > > > order new PCs without it? Did we succeed in voluntarily avoiding Vista, or 7? > > > > > > -- dkm > > > > > > > > > At 8/6/2012 03:37 PM Monday, Jon Galbreath wrote: > > >> > > >> It's a voluntary action to run the installer, so yes. > > >> > > >> Jon Galbreath, MCSE > > >> Systems Administrator > > >> International Studies and Programs > > >> Helpdesk: 517-884-2148 > > >> Ph: 517-884-2144 > > >> [log in to unmask] > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: David McFarlane [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > > >> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 3:24 PM > > >> To: [log in to unmask] > > >> Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Windows 8 Reaches RTM Milestone > > >> > > >> But will we have any choice? Do we ever? > > >> > > >> -- dkm > > >> (Sorry, late to the party, was gone on vacation) > > >> > > >> > > >> At 8/1/2012 03:10 PM Wednesday, Stehouwer, Matt wrote: > > >> >I would have to 2nd that. > > >> > > > >> >Matt Stehouwer > > >> >Technology Manager > > >> >Michigan State University > > >> >College of Natural Science Deans Office > > >> >288 Farm Lane RM 154 > > >> >East Lansing, MI 48824 > > >> >517 355-9003 | Email: [log in to unmask] > > >> > > > >> >-----Original Message----- > > >> >From: Gary Schrock [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > > >> >Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 2:41 PM > > >> >To: [log in to unmask] > > >> >Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Windows 8 Reaches RTM Milestone > > >> > > > >> >On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Jon Galbreath <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > >> > > TechNet and MSDN gets it Aug 15! > > >> > > > > >> > > Anyone planning to actually deploy this? > > >> > > > >> >The words "over my dead body" come to mind :).