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Sir, you are dealing with an entity known as the Internet, or the Web. The proprietary soup you live in is your own world. There is a world of standards in which you choose not to reside. You, and your masters, and MSU administrators, must live in what you have wrought. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Scott Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > OK folks, enough is enough.**** > > ** ** > > We are dealing with a MAMMOTH corporate entity known as SAP, which has a > software product that is incredibly complex. Any one of you who thinks that > such a MAMMOTH corporate entity is going to expend huge amounts of time and > money trying to be compatible with every release of every browser and > browser add-on that exists on the day after the next point rev is released > really needs to take the next shuttle back to reality. It ain’t gonna > happen, despite all of the bitching and moaning happening here on the NAG > list. We are professionals, and professionals deal with the reality that is > before them. Today that reality is IE8, Firefox 3.x, and Adobe Reader 9. > If you would like to change that reality, I suggest you direct your > communiques to the 4th Floor of the Administration Building, and give them > your ideas on how to change things. Who knows? They might go for it! Then > you would be a hero to all the longsuffering users at all levels who have to > deal with this thing called EBS.**** > > ** ** > > I am no apologist for SAP, EBS, AIS, Microsoft, Mozilla, or Adobe. I’m > just a lowly AP12 trying to get his work done with the tools that are > available to me. I don’t like the restrictions any more than you do, but > come on folks – get a grip! This is our reality for the foreseeable > future. If you don’t like it, well, I guess you have a choice to make.*** > * > > ** ** > > (Asbestos undergarments cinched up and ready for flames. Personal insults > cheerfully ignored)**** > > ** ** > > - Scott**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Richard Wiggins [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:34 PM > > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: [MSUNAG] EBS HR Module, SAP GUI and Adobe Acrobat**** > > ** ** > > Official Web sites should adhere to Web standards. Specifically, in the > year 2011, if a content provider claims that the content they serve needs to > adhere to a browser, such as IE8 instead of IE9, that content provider is > incompetent. Their content needs to adhere to HTML 5. Any such content > provider needs to be relieved of duty, and their managers and administrators > as well.**** > > ** ** > > /rich**** > > ** ** > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM, STeve Andre' <[log in to unmask]> wrote:**** > > The 4G requirement is just not correct for XP, since only 3G is usable > there. > > As for Acrobat, there might be some difference between 10.0, the > intermediate > version and 10.1. A friend found an interesting rendering problem that was > resolved in the latest version which was in the first 10 version. Maybe > this > is the problem? > > Has anyone used Foxit with EBS? > > --STeve Andre'**** > > > > On 07/06/11 10:36, Aldrich, Dak wrote:**** > > Ok. Now this is getting frakking ridiculous. > > We had problems about 3 weeks ago and we called the EBS helpdesk. We > called because it was taking 5 and 8 minutes to get any kind of faculty > appointment approved in the system. > > We were told that users HAD to have the LATEST version of Adobe... Correct > me if I'm wrong... ISN'T ACROBAT X THE LATEST VERSION?... AND they had to > have 4 gigs of memory. (Yes, that's exactly what I was told. And like a > dip, I didn't get a name of the agent we spoke to.) > > So, what is it? Is Acrobat X the problem? Or is it not? I really wish we > could get consistent answers between the web site, helpdesk, and everyone > else that's throwing answers around out there. > > My problem right now is that ALL users, except for one, are having the same > problem. It's taking 5 to 8 minutes to process an approval for a faculty > appointment. That means nothing to me, but the users that do it here say > that's unacceptable. Only one machine is able to process them in any > acceptable amount of time. > > All machines have either XP Pro SP3 or Windows 7 SP1, IE 8, Acrobat Reader > X and SAP. The only two differences between these machines are the OS and > that some have 2 gigs memory, others have 4 gigs. Otherwise, they all have > the same version of IE, SAP and Acrobat Reader. > > Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > -dak > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Geiger [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 4:11 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] EBS HR Module, SAP GUI and Adobe Acrobat**** > > On 7/5/2011 at 4:02 PM, Lee Duynslager<[log in to unmask]> wrote:**** > > Hey has anybody else out there had problems with any of the PDF forms > Used with the SAP GUI in the HR module in EBS, after the latest > updates to Windows? > > > > > > What did you do to resolve the problems?**** > > You know you can't have Acrobat X installed, right? > > -- > Kim Geiger > Information Technologist > Broadcasting Services > Michigan State University > 517-432-3120 x 429 > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This message is only for the intended recipient(s). > If you are not the named recipient you should not read, > distribute or copy this email. Any views or opinions > expressed in this email are those of the author and do > not represent those of Michigan State University or the > College of Music. Any information obtained from or > contained in these emails is confidential. No > information will be shared or given to any persons > outside of the appropriate department(s).**** > > ** ** >