In the College of Education we do not consider solutions that do not meet
the needs of both Mac and Windows users. We never ask whether such
solutions might be appropriate because we already know the answer.
That does mean that there are some technologies that we have not considered
and perhaps have lost some opportunities for advancement, particularly in
the area of web tool development, but aiming at what users want seems to be
the best plan in the long run and maintains a certain degree of harmony.
Possibly that was not an option for EBSP but personally I would have like to
have seen more hand wringing on the topic and possibly more information
about the SAP / Silverlight partnership and potential.
Laurence Bates
-----Original Message-----
From: Vasquez, Timo [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 3:31 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] SAP GUI on Macs
I agree with Dennis and a few others, as to why not ask these questions
about MAC compatibility over the past three years during the development.
That isn't fair of me to ask because I am sure others did inquire. However
was the answer shared, displayed, to those of you who have "MAC" offices? I
am not sure.
I do know the last year EBS(P), had clearly posted client requirements, ran
trainings created an information portal, was available via email, phone
directory and in person visits. We as an IT community has several IT
summits, where Bruce Alexander presented the status of the "project" as we
knew it back then; and all of us had opportunities to ask questions about
desktop requirements.
I am just miffed we are at this stage in the post go live date and have
departmental setup questions as it pertains to clients.
I pre apologize now if I offended any of you.
Timoteo "Timo" Vasquez; MCTS, MCP
Client Services - Network Security Team
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Administrative Information Services
(where ever we hang our hat is home...)
East Lansing, MI 48832
"but our computer room is in your office!"
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Leikert [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:31 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] SAP GUI on Macs
Hi All,
Ok, normally I keep quiet about this kinda stuff. But I digress...
Yes, I inquired about the SAP GUI for Java since our department has pretty
much standardized on OSX, but it's not a 'feasible business approach', as
referenced below. Cheap, good, fast- anyone? Interesting how they are
targeting 'ongoing activities' to support running the GUI for Windows _ON_
OSX when they could just pool their resources and support the Java GUI to
begin with. $140 end user Microsoft tax- *approved*.
Ok, rant off. Sorry, feisty today... after spending the entire morning
wrestling with this. Imagine when a non-technical staff member does
*everything* in OSX and has to transpose little bits and pieces back and
forth between their native OS and and one application running in a VM.
Jim
High Performance Computing Center - Institute for Cyber-Enabled Research
Michigan State University
/* begin snip - names removed to protect the innocent */
While I can certainly understand your predicament with SAP access on Macs
and other OS, enabling SAP GUI for Java client is not a feasible business
approach, for several reasons:
1. Portal would need to be reconfigured to accept SAP GUI for Java
2. New Access/Security roles would need to be created and issued
to those using SAP GUI for Java (or we would need to redeploy the GUI to all
users [switch them from current SAP GUI for Windows])
3. EBS infrastructure would need to be verified/changed to use the
SAP GUI for Java (changes to development, applications, etc.)
4. Changes would be required to online and hard copy user
documentation of the system (screens look and sometimes behave differently
between the SAP GUI clients)
With these changes there would need to be full regression tests of the SAP
links and workflow processes to make sure all functionality works under the
new configuration. This change would likely require a new project be
invoked (with the major cost and time implications that come with it).
There are ongoing activities by the portal/infrastructure teams to
continually search for patches, updates, even different browsers, that could
be applied or used by Mac and Linux users under the current SAP GUI client
for Windows that more fully support the current environment/configuration.
I will also pass your name on to these areas if there is something that you
could help beta test before it is deployed to the University as a whole.
Until then, you are limited to what features/functions you can access and
use, unless you are a Mac user and proceed with adding a Virtual Windows
environment (which runs around $140).
/* end snip */
Michael Hoxsey wrote:
> It won't work, the EBS Portal was built to only interface with the
> SAPGUI for Windows, not the SAPGUI for Java.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Kramizeh [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:01 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [MSUNAG] SAP GUI on Macs
>
> Has anyone had any experience with using the SAP GUI on a mac with EBS?
