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Don, I agree with many of your comments. I also agree with many of the comments against Monsanto and I too am surprised at some of the apathy given here for them. Monsanto is not a friend to the organic movement. I have no apathy for Monsanto, nor should anyone involved in organic. I am surprise many of us even had to post such e-mails to a list we expect should know better. Nathan Wright Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine as children do. It's not just in some of us; it is in everyone. -Nelson Mandela ________________________________ From: donald Dunklee <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 8:43:25 PM Subject: Re: November Organic Listserv, Nov 19, 2010 Thank you Renee, but I do not have the time available to protect my seed base from the likes of genetically modified organisms. I have already given up on corn. Now I have to worry about every other seed vegetable as well. No crop is safe anymore. I work 60 hours a week off farm to pay for my farm exenses, as well as operating my farm in my off time. I should not have to take extraordinary measures to protect my crops from the likes of any of the GM companies. They obviously have no concern for anyone but themselves. Sad to see so much apathy, or lets look the other way, attitude. How can any farm bills helping organic agriculture possibly ever pass with so much of this attitude. This November message was an advertisement, not information. Makes you wonder who on this list is truly "organic" in philosophy AND practice, and who cheats to take advantage of the marketing name. No different than Monsanto, or other greedy corporations........Guess I am born in the wrong decade. Absolutely opposed to any company that seeks out lawsuits against small farmers and offers no protection for organic growers from their "products" as a matter of business practice. Monsanto is such a company. I am fast in my position there is no place on an organic list promoting any corporation that behaves in this manner. Very disappointed. Guess it is time to find a more reliable resource. Best to all. Don Dunklee On Nov 20, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Ryan Eby wrote: > Thank you Vicki (and Trevor, Craig, Danielle) for the replies to this > thread. I am one that looks forward to seeing the information shared > on this list, including things I disagree with or would do > differently. The organic industry is well diversified in both product > and philosophy. Knowing what is occurring allows reaction, education > and marketing. While monsanto and organic may seem like something that > shouldn't belong in the same email, with purchases of seed providers > like seminis (which it appears this variety will be marketed under) > even "respectable organic growers" can find themselves being customers > of monsanto and others rather quickly. Another reason to stay > informed. > > I did find the video to be mostly marketing and of little substance > (difficulty finding papers on the variety other than trials) but I > also felt that way about recent postings about certain organic > seminars. Despite all that, I personally look forward to a continued > varied list with things that are both informative and sometimes > inspiration for action. > > Ryan Eby > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Morrone, Vicki <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> Those concerned and very upset as voiced on the Organic listserv are that >> way because of this info. That is JUST what this is, info that is available >> and we want to SHARE it with you so you can react. We are NOT promoting any >> companies, Monsanto or otherwise!! If you don’t like a news item that we >> share, don’t blame us but use this info to get the facts of what is >> happening and do something about it. Danielle is sharing info from public >> sources, MSU or the Organic Center are NOT promoting this seed or any other >> seed. So please take your energy to make change, not just screaming at >> print! >> Note this web site is NOT sponsored by ANY company or industry. This is a >> component of MSUE extension outreach. >> I respect each readers thoughts and know we all need to vent but also use >> this knowledge to work together to make changes for the better. >> Respectfully >> Vicki Morrone >> >> -- >> Organic Farming Outreach Specialist >> C.S. Mott Group for Sustainable Food Systems >> 303 Natural Resources Bldg >> East Lansing, MI 48824 >> 517-282-3557/517-355-3542(office) >> Www.michiganorganic.msu.edu > > If you would like to access previous postings to the Mich-Organic listserv you >can copy and paste the following URL into your browser address bar > http://list.msu.edu/archives/mich-organic.html If you would like to access previous postings to the Mich-Organic listserv you can copy and paste the following URL into your browser address bar http://list.msu.edu/archives/mich-organic.html If you would like to access previous postings to the Mich-Organic listserv you can copy and paste the following URL into your browser address bar http://list.msu.edu/archives/mich-organic.html