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Frank

My lab can show you some tests you could run. In out of town, but I'd  
be happy to look at the data or have a student run some quick analyses  
next week. We'd just run analyses to help us figure out the best tests  
for you to run

Juls

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On Aug 31, 2010, at 1:41 PM, "Frank D. Granshaaw" <[log in to unmask]>  
wrote:

> Hi all...
>
> I am writing everyone with two requests.
>
> 1)  This year there will be yet another session on geoscience in  
> community college at GSA in Denver.  I've been asked to speak on the  
> experience of adjunct faculty in community college earth science.   
> To get ready for this I've together an on-line survey for part-time  
> geoscience faculty.  I have sent this out to all of our part-time  
> faculty, but am wanting to cast the net a bit wider.  So if you are  
> part of a community college with part-time geoscience faculty or  
> know part-time faculty who might be interested in participating, I  
> would appreciate your forwarding them this email.  The URL for the  
> survey is < http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=6SjUkFphD1WBO8ZpLkeyRA%3d%3d 
>  >.  Please ask them to complete the survey by 09/24/2010.
>
> 2) I am also looking to get some advice on statistical tests for  
> some research that I am doing.  I recently completed a set of  
> interviews with 22 professional geologists (experts), 17 grade 6-12  
> earth science teachers, and 45 community college students who have  
> less than two classes in geology (novices), where I asked each  
> person to look over a 360° digital panorama of a scene on Mt. Hood O 
> regon.  Each person was asked to select four features from the scene 
>  that interested them for any reason (though they were asked to imag 
> ine themselves on a geology field trip to this place) and ask a ques 
> tion about each feature (either something that they wanted to know o 
> r something they would ask some students).   Following the interview 
> s I listed and tallied the unique questions for each group.  The que 
> stions were then coded according key operational and cognitive chara 
> cteristics.  The final result of this coding is the percentage of th 
> e total unique questions for each group having the various operation 
> al and cognitive characteristics (e.g. 44.4% of the questions asked  
> by novices involved processes shaping the feature, 2.4% of their que 
> stions asked about internal structure, and 26.3% of their questions  
> were convergent).  My aim in doing this is to compare these characte 
> ristics between groups.  While I've been able to make some prelimina 
> ry statements on the basis of the sample statistics,  the big issue  
> right now is testing the significance of these comparisons.  I have  
> tried a z-test involving proportions that has provided me with looks 
>  like reasonable answers, but the question of an n for each group is 
>  a bit troublesome since n as a group size is less than 30 for two o 
> f the groups and given the structure of the test that I selected, n  
> for each group would appear to be the number of distinct questions a 
> sked by members of each group.  The latter seems somewhat counter-in 
> tuitive.  Both t-tests and ANOVA have been suggested as alternatives 
> , but those seem to assume some knowledge of variance, which is not  
> within the nature of the data have.  In any case, forgive the long-w 
> indedness of this second request.  This being said any insight any m 
> ight be able to offer would be much appreciated.
>
> Take care
> Frank G.
>
>
> Frank Granshaw
>
> Earth Science Instructor
> Portland Community College
> Sylvania Campus
> Portland, OR
> 503-977-8236