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On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 02:12:55PM +0000, Jon Galbreath wrote:

> Their servers are by far, better quality than their other machines, 
> particularly their laptops, and I've not had any problems at all with 
> them, aside from a drive that had a SMART error.  I always buy Dell 
> machines, but their laptops have been, well, more error prone lately.  

I think a similar difference exists with a number of companies that
produce both larger servers and smaller consumer stuff like laptops -
HP comes to mind.

////jerry




> Jon Galbreath
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Rockwell [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:00 AM
> To: Jon Galbreath
> Cc: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] New Dells Feature Hardware Trojan
> 
> We run a few hundred Dell servers --- have had 2 mainboards replaced and one of those was bricked during a BIOS update.  Less than 1% failure over 2-3 years.  That is good by me.
> 
> Cheers,
> Tom
> 
> On 7/22/10 9:52 AM, Jon Galbreath wrote:
> >
> >
> > Yes, I saw that, but with Dell's quality lately, I wouldn't be too 
> > surprised if someone had already needed a motherboard replaced.
> >
> > *Jon Galbreath *
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> > *From:* Ehren Benson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:50 AM
> > *To:* [log in to unmask]
> > *Subject:* Re: [MSUNAG] New Dells Feature Hardware Trojan
> >
> > The article says this....
> >
> > *This issue does not affect systems as shipped from our factory and is 
> > limited to replacement parts only. Dell has removed all impacted 
> > motherboards from its service supply chain and new shipping 
> > replacement stock does not contain the malware. *
> >
> > * *
> >
> > So if you have a fancy new one and haven't had anything replaced....its fine.
> >
> > Ehren J. Benson, MCSE
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> > *From:* Jon Galbreath [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:36 AM
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> > *Subject:* [MSUNAG] New Dells Feature Hardware Trojan
> >
> > FYI if you just bought a fancy new PowerEdge R410:
> > http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2010/07/pc-giant-w
> > arns-of-hardware-tro.html
> >
> > *Jon Galbreath *
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