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Our current environment is spread out over many individual servers with storage (no SAN), we've built the new environment (mostly virtual and with SAN storage) and will be migrating our users to it this year. Currently our backups run on 3 tape unit spread out over campus, two PowerVault 132T SDLT Autoloaders and a Spectra Logic Treefrog AIT-3. The backups consume most of the week, and sometimes slow down our users as they have to run during the day. Last time I checked our Fulls run Friday 5:15 PM until mid to late afternoon on Monday (if all goes well). -Brian >>> Denyson Figueiredo <[log in to unmask]> 4/14/2010 9:32 AM >>> Wow. How long does it take you to backup 17TB over the wire? What is your backup windows for a full? On 4/14/10 9:26 AM, "Brian Pillar" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Somewhere in the neighborhood of 15-17 TB, and a significant portion of it will be coming across the campus network. We'll be backing up Windows Servers, Linux Servers, Exchange, MS SQL, Oracle, PostgreSQL, and I'm sure a few others have slipped my mind. These are some reasons we liked Avamar, because the it has source-based deduplication at fairly high rates, which also reduces backup time. It also seems to integrate nicely with our EMC SAN and VMWare. -Brian >>> Denyson Figueiredo <[log in to unmask]> 4/13/2010 3:45 PM >>> How much data are you backing up? Have anyone look into Acronis® Backup & Recovery™ 10 Server for Windows? Denyson On 4/13/10 3:32 PM, "Ehren Benson" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: We use Microsoft DPM2010 For Disk - Disk and Disk - Disk - Tape backups. Its easy ans slick but only for Microsoft products which from my understanding is what you are now using. I'd be happy to show you, let me know. Ehren J. Benson, MCSE Windows Systems Administrator Department of Physics and Astronomy Michigan State University 1209 A Biomed Phys Sci [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> 517-884-5469 From:Brian Pillar [[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 2:38 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MSUNAG] Backup Solutions Anyone out there have any experience with any backup solutions? We're looking at an EMC Avamar to give us backup to disk to tape, but the price tag stands out in a not so good way. I have also looked into Barracuda's backup service, but it does not appear that the backup data can be duplicated to tape or another device except in their cloud, and we are just not comfortable with our data out in a cloud somewhere (at least not yet). Thanks, -Brian Brian Pillar RHS Information Services Microsoft Network Administrator Michigan State University 517-353-1694, FAX: 517-884-0248