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I've found that many of our supported users simply do not know about EAS which is too bad because it would save them a lot of money. Many simply think that BlackBerry's are the only way to go to get their mail, calendar, and contacts from Exchange. And to agree with you further on the BlackBerry racket....in addition to the expensive server license we paid for the BES, we have to get $99 CAL's for each user on top of that? Wow.... Lastly, we have Exchange Server 2003 still and the disk I/O that the BES puts on Exchange is extremely high. The whitepapers I have read list the BES user increasing disk ops equal to 5 non-BES users. ________________________________ From: Jon Galbreath [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Fri 2/12/2010 1:43 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Just a thought about BES or BPS or any enterprise solution I have zero sympathy for BB users and their service fees. I have an iPhone that I can't make voice calls on, but dammit I can get my mail for no additional cost. J RIM's whole business model is a racket to suck as much money out of people as possible, and it works, except when it doesn't. EAS is wonderful! I've never had any problems with it with many iPhones, Windows Mobile, I think there's a Droid in there too. I should never have to have a third-party standing between me and my email. Jon Galbreath MCSE/Security+ Systems Administrator International Studies and Programs Ph: 517-884-2144 [log in to unmask] From: Javier Ornelas [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:27 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Just a thought about BES or BPS or any enterprise solution I agree that ActiveSync is a great way to go with Exchange. When I've explained to some of our users the cost difference between BlackBerry's with a BES connection (the $99 CAL and the monthly service fees) and ActiveSync, many ditched their BlackBerry's at the first opportunity to get a phone that supports EAS just to save the $15-20 per month that the BES service costs on top of their data plan. That being said, we have a BES with over 100 users on it and I doubt some of those users will ever want to even try a phone with ActiveSync given that they love their BlackBerry's! ________________________________ From: Charlot, Firmin [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Fri 2/12/2010 1:16 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MSUNAG] Just a thought about BES or BPS or any enterprise solution For the record we use Activesync in MS exchange to support a number of devices and have been very happy with it. It seems like this is a good time to have a conversation about whether it makes sense to have an entire Blackberry Enterprise Server (BES) or Blackberry Professional Software (BPS)maintained for a handful of people. The cost can be significant when you take into account maintenance, licenses and support. I do not mean to pick on BES or BPS but this train of thought can be applied to any enterprise solution that need to be maintained, licensed and supported. We do have a handful of people who have purchased Blackberry devices and we have referred to AIS who has a Blackberry Enterprise Server offering for about $20.00 per mailbox. May worth taking a closer look at the AIS offering to see what your cost benefit analysis tells you. Others have any thoughts on this? Firmin Charlot, ITIL, MCSE, A+, Information Systems Manager Michigan State University - Student Services Educational and Support Services 162 Student Services Building East Lansing, MI 48824 [log in to unmask] (517) 432-7541 Submit technical requests at https://help.ess.msu.edu/