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To add a little to this discussion from the administrative perspective. My understanding is that the University views Google as a repository for "low risk" data. As e-mail is often "high risk" they wished to separate out this solution. Further, this would imply that the contract that was developed does not satisfactorily resolve the privacy issues that were the initial question. -- +-------------------------------------------+ | Michael Surato | | College of Arts and Letters | | Michigan State University | | 320 Linton Hall | | East Lansing, MI 48824 | | Voice: (517) 353-0778 Fax: (517) 355-0159 | +-------------------------------------------+ >>> On 11/18/2009 at 3:20 PM, John Evans <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> We have three mail platforms on the campus that Eudora, Exchange, and > MSU.EDU mail system. > > And, GroupWise. > > >>>> "Vasquez, Timo" <[log in to unmask]> 11/16/2009 5:03 PM >>> > HI Patrick, > Yeah this was an interesting Topic last summer and fall, but there were some > issues with security/privacy with Google apps for business use. We have > three mail platforms on the campus that Eudora, Exchange, and MSU.EDU mail > system. You will find lots of posts from all types of user classes on the > topic. > > I am very sad you were in previous environments where the MS Exchange > architecture was not robust, or maintained properly. The major merit for > using your own mail server is the ability to provide a secure environment > that is tangible and worked by trained and enthusiastic mail administrators > for delivery, troubleshooting, and recovery. > > I use Gmail personally and can see where small units, budget constrained > business, low sensitivity transmissions groups, and other community based > groups could benefit. However we have started looking as a large community > focus to find a responsive powerful option with calendaring but have a little > more discussion to have. LOL. > > Have a good day. > > > > Timoteo "Timo" Vasquez; MCTS, MCP > Client Services - Network Security Team > [log in to unmask] - 517.353.4420 ext 249 > Administrative Information Services > 2 Administration Bldg > East Lansing, MI 48832 > "He who breaks the law, goes back to the house of Pain" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf Of Patrick Thompson > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:39 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [MSUNAG] Gmail vs. Exchange > > Hi all, > > I'm new to the list and a user (not an IT pro), and apologies if this has > been > discussed before on MSUNAG, but I'm really interested to know why the > university > doesn't plan to use gmail. It seems like the privacy and ownership issues > would > be overcome with the advent of google docs. So, what's the difference with > storing potentially private data through gmail vs. docs in the cloud? > Reason I'm > asking, exchange is awful and bulky (in my opinion), often slow and often > has > errors. Either through app/vpn or exchange web access it's a pain to use > outside > of university grounds. If we don't fully commit to google apps then people > won't > transition, they'll just stick with their old programs. Plus, aren't we > increasing the > IT burden by having to maintain two systems (training on both systems, > hardware > on exchange server, etc.?) When I heard that we were using google docs I > was > excited, but the lack of gmail is a real disappointment. I'll look in the > archives to > see what's been discussed about this, but I guess I was wondering if others > had > the same opinion.