Hi Eric Good question, and I believe the answer is no. Tony developed these instruments primarily for use in college biology, and in the case of the CTSR many of the items involve quantitative biological problems. They have been applied to a variety of PD activities as well, including some that applied H-D analysis to Earth science problems. Unfortunately they had small N. This is why I also mentioned Julie Libarkin's 2001 survey, which is NOSS-like but includes items related to geologists and the Earth, and which was validated in college geology courses. Unless somebody checks in with a more "NOGS"-like instrument, I think any of these surveys could be used to assess PD, but one would certainly have to consider the discipline-based differences in scientific method and reasoning when interpreting any pre-post changes. Cheers Steve Steven Semken, Ph.D., Associate Professor School of Earth and Space Exploration Arizona State University POB 871404, Tempe AZ 85287 USA http://semken.asu.edu -----Original Message----- From: GEOEDUCATION RESEARCH INTEREST GROUP on behalf of Eric J. Pyle Sent: Mon 13-Jul-09 18:03 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: nature of science survey Steve, You've raised an interesting point here, re: hypothetico-deductive and experimental methods, which are arguably different than many methods applied in the geosciences. So the question that I might ask is what is the relative validity of the instrumentation when applied in geoscience professional development settings? Have you run across specific references that address this question? Just curious, more than anything else. Regards, Eric Pyle ---- Original message ---- Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:09:54 -0700 From: Steven Semken <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: nature of science survey To: [log in to unmask] >Hi Andrea > >The CTSR is a test of scientific reasoning in problem-solving; not so much a pure NOS survey, but a good test of scientific habits of mind and hypothetico-deductive reasoning complementary to understanding of NOS. Some, but not all, of the items are based in experimental methods. I put the instrument out there just in case it proves of use (e.g., in triangulation). > >I don't think NOSS is online, but I e-mailed Tony to check on this. > >Cheers >Steve > >Steven Semken, Ph.D., Associate Professor >School of Earth and Space Exploration >Arizona State University >POB 871404, Tempe AZ 85287 USA >http://semken.asu.edu > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: GEOEDUCATION RESEARCH INTEREST GROUP on behalf of Andrea R Bair >Sent: Mon 13-Jul-09 16:51 >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: nature of science survey > >Hi Julie and Elizabeth (and others interested) >I'm not familiar with the NOSS, but have used both the Lawson Test of >scientific reasoning and the VNOS (Views on the Nature of Science >Survey). The Lawson test is, as I recall, primarily focused on >experimental methods, which may or may not be what you're after. The >VNOS is a set of open-ended questions, and is available (along with >references) at: > >http://www.flaguide.org/tools/diagnostic/views_of_nature_questionnaire.php > >Steve, is there a reference or weblink to the NOSS? > >cheers, >Andrea > > >Steven Semken wrote: >> My colleague Tony Lawson developed a Classroom Test of Scientific Reasoning and a Nature of Science Survey. The CTSR is valid and reliable and has been used in a number of peer-reviewed studies. I believe the NOSS, which is newer, has also been validated--but I am not certain of this. Julie and Elizabeth, I'll send them to you separately. Anyone else who would like them is welcome to e-mail me at [log in to unmask] >> >> Julie Libarkin also developed a NOS survey--see JGE v.49 p. 435. >> >> Best regards, >> Steve >> >> Steven Semken, Ph.D., Associate Professor >> School of Earth and Space Exploration >> Arizona State University >> POB 871404, Tempe AZ 85287 USA >> http://semken.asu.edu >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: GEOEDUCATION RESEARCH INTEREST GROUP on behalf of Elizabeth A. Nagy-Shadman >> Sent: Mon 13-Jul-09 15:55 >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: nature of science survey >> >> If someone has something for Julie, I'd appreciate a copy, too! >> Thanks! >> Elizabeth >> >> Elizabeth Shadman, Ph.D. >> Natural Sciences Division, E210D >> Pasadena City College >> 1570 E. Colorado Blvd. >> Pasadena, CA 91106 >> >> Chair, GSA Geoscience Education Division >> >> office: 626-585-3369 >> fax: 626-585-7978 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: GEOEDUCATION RESEARCH INTEREST GROUP on behalf of Julie Sexton >> Sent: Mon 7/13/2009 1:25 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: nature of science survey >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Colleagues, >> >> >> >> I am looking for a nature of science instrument that I can >> administer to elementary teachers participating in a professional development >> program. I would like to administer the instrument pre and post to investigate >> change in teachers knowledge of the nature of science. >> >> >> >> Does anybody have a recommendation for a valid and reliable >> nature of science instrument that would be appropriate for teachers in a PD >> program? >> >> >> >> You can send suggestions to me at [log in to unmask] or [log in to unmask] >> Regards, Julie >> >> >> ---------------------- >> Julie Sexton, Ph.D. >> Research Associate, Geoscience Education >> Math and Science Teaching Institute >> University of Northern Colorado >> [log in to unmask] >> > >-- >Andrea Bair, PhD >Research Associate, Science Teaching Fellow >Department of Geological Sciences, Science Education Initiative >University of Colorado at Boulder >Email: [log in to unmask] >Tel: 303.492.7025 Eric J. 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