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Good question Tim and I would be interested in hearing an answer to it. However..I am all for changing the tests to weed out the "paper" MCSE's out there who don't know squat. You all know the type. Have the paper that says MCSE, but couldn't tell you the first thing about where to start when loading a server. _____ From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Timothy Woods Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 11:50 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MSUNAG] Certificate Programs Any consensus on where Microsoft Certificates will be heading in the future? I am familiar with their new certificate programs, but they seem to be somewhat ambiguous to others that I have spoken with. I believe many organizations are still recognizing the MCSE as the "Paramount" in Microsoft certificates for IT. As I recall they were talking about phasing out the old certificate programs, but when I recently reviewed their site I did not see any mention of this. I am not sure what the best recommendation would be for someone at this time for it could be a dilemma, should they spend their time and money on a certificate that will be obsolete in a few years/months, or recommend them to move forward to the new certificate programs that organizations might not recognize anytime soon? An underlying question might be will Microsoft shy away from the new certificate program if they do not get the public support and recognition? Then incorporate newer tests for the older ones such as MCSE. Or are the new certificates here to stay and they will phase out the older programs regardless? Tim Woods Information Technology Professional Michigan State University School of Social Work and Department of Anthropology [log in to unmask]