Thanks to Teagan Tomlin, I have now found that neato-peachykeeno site again (yes, I am giddy about this LOL ). Thought others would be interested in the following Teagan shared: "I think this is the site you are looking for: http://geoinformatics.sdsc.edu/doe/index.html On the page it explains why the old site doesn't work: Note to our users: Recently our main server has had a major system failure. Currently, we are running from a backup site. This has caused system problems and lack of functionality for two of our most popular and useful tools, QUEST and GEOID. We apologize for this and unfortunately do not expect these tools to be available any longer. Hope this helps. Teagan TOmlin " It sure is great to have access to the other geo-education folks through this listserv. Cheers, Wendi -- Wendi J. W. Williams, Ph.D. Science / Research Instructor Pre-College Programs / Upward Bound University of Arkansas P.O. Box 4806 Fayetteville, AR 72702 Tel: 479.422.3988 1.866.515.0729 Toll Free E-Mail: [log in to unmask]