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I completely agree.  For inventing the Windows Installer and the MSI packaging model, they're really doing their clients a disservice by pretty much leaving them in the dirt if they only use the built-in tools included with Windows.

Jon Galbreath
MCSE/Security+
Systems Administrator
International Studies and Programs
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-----Original Message-----
From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Troy D Murray
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Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Office 2003 or 2007?

Personally I was very disappointed that Microsoft changed the way the Office 2007 installation could be deployed, not easy to do through the GPO.  Felt like they were just using it as a catalyst to push their SMS or other products like that.


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Troy Murray
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jon Galbreath
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Sent: Wed, 14 Jan 2009
23:31:09 -0500
Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Office 2003 or 2007?


> If that's true, and they don't read the NAG, I'd LOVE to find out how
> they're doing it.  Office 2007 no longer is just a native MSI installer and
> needs to be setup driven, like stupid Adobe products.  I'd thought of just
> doing the Office Customization Wizard (invoked from running setup.exe with
> the /admin switch) and generating the .MSP patch so it has the options
> configured the way I want as well as eliminating the activation process, and
> then just using GPO to put an install icon on the Desktop, but since I can't
> guarantee that the user is an admin (though it's easy enough to check), and
> I want the installer to execute as SYSTEM, I don't want to do it this way.
>
> So if you can pass this along to them, that'd be fantastic.  I'm obviously
> not the only one interested in the GPO solution.  I wouldn't care at all if
> we had SMS or SCCM2007, but I don't, so I need GPOs for now :)
>
> Thanks!
> Jon
>
> Jon Galbreath
> MCSE/Security+
> Systems Administrator
> International Studies and Programs
> Ph: 517-884-2144
> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>
> From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Scott Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:44 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Office 2003 or 2007?
>
> We're going to be starting the update in HR in a couple of weeks, I'm told.
> The guys say they are going to do a GPO upgrade, and I think they have
> tested it out, so this may not be correct information.
>
> I have been using it for over a year.  It takes some getting used to coming
> out of 2003, but I find that I like it better.  It was worth the switch for
> me.
>
> ________________________________
> From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Troy Murray
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:48 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Office 2003 or 2007?
>
> I'm curious how Office 2007 installs are happening.  In the past I've
> deployed both Office 2002 and Office 2003 using GPO and it worked seamlessly
> and with ease.  In looking at some of the resource kit documentation, I'm
> lead to believe that you cannot do a GPO install of Office 2007 like you did
> with Office 2002 and 2003, is that correct?
>
> -t
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Ehren Benson wrote:
>
> Any new installs are getting 2007, people with 2003/XP are getting upgraded
> as they request it.
>
> Ehren J. Benson, MCSE
> Windows Systems Administrator
>
> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Cheryl Akers
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:31 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [MSUNAG] Office 2003 or 2007?
>
> We're in the middle of deciding of we need to upgrade.
>
> Our department is still on Office 2003.  Are you all upgrading to 2007 or
> are you still on 2003?
> Cheryl
>
> Cheryl Akers, MS, CNA - [log in to unmask]
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> "I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes, several days attack me
> at once."
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> Troy Murray
> Systems/Database Administrator
> Michigan State University
> Clinical And Translational Sciences
> Biomedical Research Informatics Core (BRIC)
> 100 Conrad Hall
> East Lansing, MI 48824
> Phone: 517-432-4248
> Fax: 517-353-9420
> E-mail: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
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