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I don't mean to throw salt into your wounds, but in case there was any doubt and you want more reinforcement... We're heavy SPSS users over here. I offered all of my folks upgrade licenses for 08 and they all opted for 15 on their own. I don't believe I got one request for 16. They've experienced this out of SPSS in the past. A large group who all work together on the same project have voluntarily agreed to work together in staying one version behind every year. So about half of our "upgrades" of SPSS this year were from 14 to 15. Those that got 15 part way through 07 just renewed for 08 and stayed on 15. I've also been told by a couple faculty that the economists are beginning to prefer Stata over SPSS, where SPSS had been more favorable in the past. Best wishes, Brian Hoort -----Original Message----- From: STeve Andre' [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:02 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] SPSS16 I had this bad feeling that someone was going to say something like this. Well, at least we have the 15 reauth codes, so I think I'm going to do what you suggest, and wait. Why is it that SPSS gets a little more strange with each release? Thanks all! --STeve Andre'