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John, I've been using Trillian (the free version) for a few years to keep MSN, ICQ and AIM accounts organized. One thing I've found with Trillian is that I've not had good luck adding a new MSN account through the Trillian interface. The other user can see me online, but I can't see the other user. So I've found it's best to add a new MSN "friend" via MSN Messenger, then open Trillian as I normally would. The new "friend" will pop up as all my others do, and I won't skip a beat. Best, Tony Tony Farrell Systems Analyst Student Academic Record Systems Team, Administrative Information Services Michigan State University 517.353.4420 x302 [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: John Resotko [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 9:38 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Collaboration Option "D" - Other Thanks for that disclaimer, Ed. That also explains why it hasn't be promoted as an officially supported tool. Still, for those willing to try it, that leads me to my next question.... what client do you recommend? I've been looking at chat consolidation clients, such as the free version of Trillian, as well as Pidgin, so I can also keep tabs on more than one messenger account. For those unfamiliar with these tools, they are basically chat clients that support multiple vendor chat protocols, such as AIM, Yahoo Messenger, MSN, all at the same time in a single client software. I have enough running on my PC that don't want the overhead of multiple chat clients. I was wondering what people are using for chat clients, if you are using a consolidated client like the two I mention, and the pros and cons you've seen using them. Thanks! John A. Resotko Head of Systems Administration Michigan State University College of Law 208 Law College Building East Lansing, MI 48824-1300 email: [log in to unmask] Phone: 517-432-6836 Fax: 517-432-6861 Current Chairperson of the MSU Network Communications Community >>> Ed Symanzik <[log in to unmask]> 12/14/2007 9:21 AM >>> Nicholas, Perhaps that is where the confusion lies. IRC is not being promoted for official or even reliable, person-to-person communication. Rather, we use it the same way you use efnet, to contact a group where there is a critical mass of technical people such that someone may have an answer and a discussion may ensue. It has more of a conversational feel than you get in a forum or mailing list. It also works well as an IT watercooler. http://irc.acns.msu.edu/ -- Ed Symanzik