No disrespect intended but IRC is where bots thrive, why would you trust a business process or any sensitive communications in the same environment? Let alone use a work issued pc to operate in the world? I am very familiar with all the IRC realms and used all the chat programs that were socially popular from Icq to Yahoo, and then implemented a stand alone jabber. The one venue that always gave my work arenas a work out with the security systems was IRC. I wasted a lot of energy with staffing, and resources locking down equipment and managing policies on workstations until I finally had it and realized if I am allowing IRC software to run on clients, I was cutting my own throat so to speak. Will all the risk there is no good business case to use IRC for productivity today. Please don't be offended with my opinion on that service. Timo Vasquez- D.S.S. Team Member Michigan State University Administrative Information Services [log in to unmask] 517-353-4420 ext 249 -----Original Message----- From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Martinez Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 4:45 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Collaboration Option "D" - Other Kwiatkowski, Nicholas writes: > (b) Instant Messaging - This would be useful if we were ALL on a > common platform. I realize that IRC has been setup for some people in > ACNS, but that is a form of active communication. IM is a form of > passive communication, where I don't have to be watching the screen to > get a message. This is akin to having a phone on the desk (which is the > most useful for me). > Nicholas, I just wanted to clear a few things regarding IRC as it is my little "thing" for lack of something better to say. We have IRC setup for anyone on campus to use, it is not exclusive to ACNS. Hence the reason we are always parading it around on NAG from time to time. In fact, we've had a few stray joins from several members of the NAG community, and frankly I was happy to see that. It has led to us meeting at least one person, in real life, whom we only knew via name on this list. Another person a few of my colleagues already knew from taking classes with years ago. IRC can be and IS used for passive communication all the time by us. In exactly the same way an instant message is. You simply send someone a /msg "hey when you get back to your keyboard, let me know whats up..." Which is the same as double clicking someone's screen name in AIM/Jabber/etc. and saying the same thing. What I like about IRC better is how it brings groups together. I know you can do group type stuff in other IM environments, but call me old school (I guess). I sort of see what you are getting at by saying its active, because yeah, if you are sitting in a channel and there's lots of discussion going on, you don't want to sort through lines and lines of people talking to see the one line addressed to you. But that's also why modern day IRC clients (Pidgin, Xchat, MIRC, Chatzilla, whatever else) have a highlighting feature for when you are addressed, and/or certain keywords are said. And again, also why the /msg nickname exists. Alright, I think I've said enough about IRC. The long and the short of it people is, USE IRC!! (irc.acns.msu.edu) Also, did I mention that SWAP was dope?! ./brm