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Troy, As I understand it, it's the exact opposite. When in conflict, GMail's TOS overrides the general Google TOS. - David Troy Murray wrote: > > I'm curious if anyone knows this. Do they Google Terms of Service > (http://www.google.com/accounts/TOS?hl=en) supersede or replace (or > whatever other legal word is used) the Gmail Terms of Use > (http://www.google.com/mail/help/terms_of_use.html)? > > The reason I ask is the Gmail Terms of Use state "Google does not > claim any ownership in any of the content, including any text, data, > information, images, photographs, music, sound, video, or other > material, that you upload, transmit or store in your Gmail account. We > will not use any of your content for any purpose except to provide you > with the Service." however the Google Terms of Service state "By > submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a > perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive > licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly > perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, > post or display on or through, the Services.". > > So I'm confused, if I "create content" in Gmail that I e-mail to you, > can Google use it (per Google Terms of Service) or not (per Gmail > Terms of Use)? > > -- > Troy Murray > Informatics Specialist > Michigan State University > Biomedical Research & Informatics Center (BRIC) > 100 Conrad Hall > East Lansing, MI 48824 > Phone: 517-432-4248 > Fax: 517-353-9420 > E-mail: [log in to unmask] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: MSU Network Administrators Group on behalf of Tom Davis > Sent: Sun 11/4/2007 12:16 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [MSUNAG] Fwd: Avoid Google Apps, Gmail, Microsoft Live Office > for University business > > FYI. Dave Gift sent this to the Deans, Directors > and Chairs list yesterday. /Tom > > >Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 13:32:01 -0400 > >From: David A Gift <[log in to unmask]> > >Subject: Avoid Google Apps, Gmail, Microsoft > >Live Office for University business > >To: [log in to unmask] > > > >To: Deans, Directors, Chairs > > > >From: David Gift, Vice Provost, Libraries, Computing and Technology > > David Brower, Assistant Vice President for Finance, CFO and Controller > > Linda O. Stanford, Associate Provost for Academic Services > > Michael Poterala, Assistant Vice > > President for Research and Graduate Studies and > > Executive Director, MSU Technologies > > > >Subject: Avoiding use of online software tools > >such as Google Apps, Gmail, and Microsoft Office Live > > > >Please share this message with faculty and staff in your units. > > > >Google, Microsoft, and other companies are > >offering, at no charge, an increasingly diverse > >set of online, web-based software tools, many of > >which provide standard â?oofficeâ?� functions > >such as document and slide deck production and > >management, spreadsheeting and communications, > >including e-mail. These tools run on company > >(vendor) servers, and user files and other > >content are stored on company systems as > >well. The no-cost option is attractive to many > >University units, faculty and staff. However, > >due to the terms of use and business models > >being applied to these tools, they MAY NOT be > >used in the conduct of University work. > > > >To illustrate one concern, the terms to which > >you agree when you use Google Apps > >(http://www.google.com/accounts/TOS?hl=en) > >include the following; which compromises the > >Universityâ?Ts intellectual property rights and > >the security of University records: > > > >â?oYou [user] retain copyright and any other > >rights you already hold in Content which you > >submit, post or display on or through, the > >Services. BY SUBMITTING, POSTING OR DISPLAYING > >THE CONTENT YOU GIVE GOOGLE A PERPETUAL, > >IRREVOCABLE, WORLDWIDE, ROYALTY-FREE, AND > >NON-EXCLUSIVE LICENSE TO REPRODUCE, ADAPT, > >MODIFY, TRANSLATE, PUBLISH, PUBLICLY PERFORM, > >PUBLICLY DISPLAY AND DISTRIBUTE ANY CONTENT > >WHICH YOU SUBMIT, POST OR DISPLAY ON OR THROUGH, > >THE SERVICES. . You agree that this license > >INCLUDES A RIGHT FOR GOOGLE TO MAKE SUCH > >CONTENT AVAILABLE TO OTHER COMPANIES, > >ORGANIZATIONS OR INDIVIDUALS WITH WHOM GOOGLE > >HAS RELATIONSHIPS for the provision of > >syndicated services, and to use such Content in > >connection with the provision of those services.â?� (emphasis added) > > > >Furthermore, neither Google nor Microsoft makes > >any promise to back up content, secure > >confidential or proprietary content, or provide > >free service for any particular period of > >time. If they change their minds about the > >business utility of this model, it may simply go away one day. > > > >Contract terms like these do not provide > >appropriate protection for University business > >records or documents. If software tools like > >these are used in instruction, they may > >compromise student intellectual property > >protections. They may also adversely affect > >commercialization or publication of intellectual > >property created by faculty. Because > >individuals frequently do not know that they are > >creating University business records, including > >student records, in the course of doing their > >daily work at MSU, ANY use of these sorts of online tools must be > avoided. > >Individuals or units contemplating use of any > >software tool or online service should carefully > >read and consider the terms of use, and seek > >appropriate legal or other review from > >University administrative offices when terms of > >use are incompatible with University policy or > >exceed the relevant administratorâ?Ts authority. > >