I think for once I have to totally agree with you on this one,
Laurence. I’ve always been pleased with Exchange and especially
with the OWA and OMA feature sets. And frankly, people wouldn’t run
the software if it was crap. Look at all the large corporations that run
Exchange for hundreds of thousands of users. If it couldn’t
perform, they wouldn’t use it. Exchange certainly is not cheap, but
as you said, you get what you pay for.
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Bates
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Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] University-wide messaging and calendar system
I’m not clear what the negatives are for Exchange. It
scales well, has great support from both Microsoft and a host of other
companies, it has the best web client that I am aware of, supports more current
mobile devices and can be expected to support any significant future devices
capable of email and calendaring. Sure it costs money but so do most good
systems. My sense is that you tend to get what you pay for in both cars
and software.
From: Jon Galbreath
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Zimbra’s a pretty good alternative to Exchange for a
collaboration suite. My only thought on it is: what’s going to
happen to it now that it’s been purchased by Yahoo?
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Murray
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 9:46 AM
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Subject: [MSUNAG] University-wide messaging and calendar system
I enjoyed
attending the MSU IT Exchange last Friday to discuss the technology direction
and concerns for the University as well as to share ideas on what might be the
best solutions.
In particular the topic Mr Davis discussed on the current University email
system and the possible directions that could be taken with it ("stay the
course", replace, upgrade, discontinue, etc) and the thoughts and feelings
of the audience. I can see their are some passionate individuals about
this topic.
While I feel the mail system could be better with updates, like a refreshed web
interface, I feel there is a much greater need for a University-wide calendar
system. I seem to remember Mr Gift commenting on how this topic can be
very sensitive with individuals and that one of the biggest challenges with it
is personal control to who can access your calendar and what they can see or
do.
Personally I've been looking into the Zimbra Collaboration Suite (http://www.zimbra.com/products/)
which seems to provide a fully featured messaging, calendaring, contact management
package. The system can be run in a hosted enviroment or purchased and
run at the University level on our own servers.
For those unfamiliar with Zimbra, it provides messaging using all of the
standard protocols (POP3, IMAP and SMTP with or without SSL) so stand-alone
programs like Microsoft Outlook, Mozilla Thunderbird, Eudora or Apple Mail.app
would work with it. In addition a fancy AJAX webmail interface is
provided, as well as a non-fancy HTML one, and a very nice mobile interface for
those wishing to access the system that way.
Zimbra also provides a calendar to each user and allows the user to control
access to it from other users. With permissions set users can even
"subscribe" to anothers calendar using the iCal standard protocol
with programs like Apple's iCal or Mozilla Sunbird (Windows, Linux, Mac) and
Microsoft Outlook 2007 or 2003 with a plug-in.
One advantage I see with this system is that users of Outlook can still
maintain their calendar, contacts and mail through Outlook, like they do now,
and all of that will be syncronized with the Zimbra server. It even
supports Outlook in cached mode. Those of us with Macs can use Mail.app,
iCal and Address book and this will sync (using iSync) to the server as well.
There are a number of other features that I haven't looked at yet, such as
instant messaging, creating documents and custom components for VOIP or
mapping.
I see on their web site that they are having some webinars about campus wide
messaging using Zimbra, and comparing it to what Google is offering (http://www.zimbra.com/about/webinars.html).
I'm curious, has anyone at the "University level" looked at Zimbra as
a possible replacement for the current messaging system? Is anyone on
campus running Zimbra? If so, what has been your experience with it?
Just my thoughts to try and get a discussion started on this topic.
--
Troy Murray
Informatics Specialist
Michigan State University
Biomedical Research & Informatics Center (BRIC)
100 Conrad Hall
East Lansing, MI 48824
Phone: 517-432-4248
Fax: 517-353-9420
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