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Sorry I guess I should have made it a little more clear, I was polling
the windows people because it would actually be running on a windows
server, however clients could be anywhere from windows NT, or 98 to Unix
or MacOS.  We need ftp because some of the labs have experimental
equipment that use legacy interface cards that require NT or 98, so
those people (which are internal) need it to be able to access files
which they can not access through file shares because the OS is
outdated.  The other side is people off campus who need files and as you
suggested...those using windows and sometimes mac os use our vpn to
connect and map a drive, however linux/unix users typically use FTP.

I was really hoping that someone had a way for IIS to do STFP but I
guess that was a shot in the dark...I was very disappointed to see that
the FTP engine in Server 2008 is the same IIS6 that we have now where
the web engine is upgraded to IIS7.  

Thanks for the input from everyone, we will evaluate some of the ideas
and pick a good solution.  Thanks!

Ehren J. Benson, MCSE
Windows Systems Administrator

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-----Original Message-----
From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Chris Wolf
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 7:36 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Creative SFTP solutions on windows IIS

Sure, but, unless I misread it, Ehren's message dealt only with Windows
sharing. I asked why use FTP in that situation.

And yes, we have people in hotels in Africa using MSU's VPN to transfer
files from MSU. Since Windows file sharing is already "a standardized
protocol" for Windows servers and clients, and MSU provides standardized
VPN
access, why not use them when that's all you need?

-----Original Message-----
From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Tom Rockwell
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 5:14 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Creative SFTP solutions on windows IIS

A user can use the same SFTP client to access Linux, UNIX, Windows
machines,
and can run a client from Linux, UNIX or Windows machines. 
SFTP uses a standardized protocol.

There is the difference between mounting a remote volume and doing a
file
transfer.

Say I'm sitting in a hotel in Beijing and want to transfer a file from
MSU
onto a colleague's laptop is the VPN going to work?

Flexibility is good, IMO.

-Tom



Chris Wolf wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, why use FTP at all? We have users access 
> Windows shares from off-campus by using MSU's VPN. Wouldn't that take 
> care of most of your needs?
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> *From:* MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
> *On Behalf Of *Ehren Benson
> *Sent:* Friday, October 12, 2007 3:33 PM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* [MSUNAG] Creative SFTP solutions on windows IIS
>
> Windows folks:
>
> We used to run FTP for users to access their files in their home 
> directories from either out of the building using our RRAS vpn or on 
> those older systems (NT-98) that don't directly access them through 
> shares. However recently we have disabled that because of the very 
> unsecure nature of FTP. We would like to provide SFTP functionality as

> people tend to not like that we took regular FTP away.
>
> I found a free solution from freeftpd.com but I would like it to be 
> integrated with IIS but I just don't know if that's possible.whereas 
> for websites you can enable SSL, you can't for FTP sites. I even just 
> installed IIS7 on the test box I have with WinServer2008 RC0 and it 
> seems that all web services have been updated in IIS7.however if you 
> want to use FTP services it dumps you back into its IIS6 console with 
> all the same options.so much for the hope they would have updated 
> that.
>
> Any creative ideas/options anyone else has implemented?
>
> Ehren J. Benson, MCSE
>
> *Windows Systems Administrator*
>
> Department of Physics and Astronomy
>
> Michigan State University
>
> 1209 A Biomed Phys Sci
>
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>