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Im fairly sure that they are still pushing IE7 through OPTIONAL updates...I just installed 2 XP sp2 systems yesterday and installed IE7 through Microsoft update (in the optional section). Depending on the age of the laptop however the card may not support WPA or other standards. Ehren J. Benson, MCSE Windows Systems Administrator [log in to unmask] 517-355-9200 x2569 -----Original Message----- From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Hoort, Brian Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 12:05 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Windows Update Not Updating Well, I'd say Peter Murray gets the prize. He suggests that both are explainable -- some older wifi cards don't support WGA, and secondly, it appears that M$ reversed their decision to include IE7 on Windows Update, even as an Optional (isn't that crazy?), according to this discussion: http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/browse_thr ead/thread/c62e786804943b30/6339b03eca894cdf?hl=en&lnk=st&q=ie7+no+longe r+automatic#6339b03eca894cdf So I guess I was jumping to conclusions and making a big deal out of nothing, just like a "user"! Thanks to all. Brian Hoort