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I agree with Grigg, A lot of us work VERY HARD to be and remain Certified. We have formed a local group of growers to keep our costs down and to joint market/distribute. We have learned a lot since the "Old days" and we are actually smarter and possibly more eco-respondsible Enjoy theday <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. If you would like to access previous postings to the Mich-Organic listserv you can copy and paste the following URL into your browser address bar http://list.msu.edu/archives/mich-organic.html