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It's been my experience with Virtuozzo, Virtual PC/Server and VMware that VMware is the more mature, flexible and robust product offering in the server space. VMware just opened up a public beta of their VMware Fusion software that would allow me to take a VM running whatever OS on a Windows Host and run it on my MacBook for whatever. You could also easily setup a VM under the Windows software and then move it into a Linux production environment under VMware. -t On 12/28/06, Vivek Joshi <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Virtualization has benefits for software development too. Since the virtual > machine can be copied/moved, I can move my development server which runs on > the virtual machine to any other computer, take it home etc, rather than map > my drives for remote development. It also allows me to branch the virtual > machine, so I can split a virtual machine and run ie6 on one, and ie7 on the > other. I can also simulate a whole network on my pc. I can roll back > changes, take snapshots of the system and so on. Microsoft seems to be > pushing this quite a bit too. They have made a disk image of pre-activated > winxp2 + ie6 for app testing available here > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=21EABB90-958F-4B64- > B5F1-73D0A413C8EF&displaylang=en > The downside is that you need about 2gb of ram, and Virtualpc does make my > pc crash once in a while. Vmware seems to be more mature in this regard. > Vivek > > -----Original Message----- > From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf Of Richard Wiggins > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:42 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] To Virtualize or not > > Seems like virtualization would be an excellent topic for a future > face-to-face NAG meeting. > > Funny to see the Virtual Machine idea, which IBM mainframes exploited over > 20 years ago, coming back into vogue, on servers, on Intel Macs, etc. > > /rich > > On 12/28/06, Troy Murray <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Before starting MSU this month I worked for an insurance company here > > in the Lansing area. I was able to move a number of our production > > servers to virtualized servers, a total of 8 including Exchange > > server, domain controllers, printer server, WSUS server and a few web > > servers. I have used both VMware Server, VMware GSX Server and > > Virtuozzo for Windows in the past but prefer the VMware Server. A lab > > I've done work for in CHM runs their production server (web, sql, > > file, print, dc) as a virtual server on top of a Windows host. > > Backup is really simplified and so is recovery in the event that the > > host server goes down, we just plug the external hard drive into a > > workstation, load the VMware Server or Workstation product and "open" > > the last backup of the system. > > > > -t > > > > > > > > On Dec 27, 2006, at 5:31 PM, Charlot, Firmin wrote: > > > > > Virtualization is something that I have been thinking about lately > > > but there are so many pros and cons and probabilities and > > > possibilities one can find oneself in analysis paralyses very quickly. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there anyone who has taken the leap and virtualized some or all > > > their production boxes and if so any advice/pitfalls/benefits that > > > you could provide would be greatly appreciated? What are you using > > > for your Host server(s) (Open-Source, VMware or Microsoft Virtual > > > Server). > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Holidays to all! > > > > > > > > > > > > Firmin Charlot, MCSE, A+ > > > > > > Information Systems Manager > > > > > > Educational and Support Services > > > > > > 162 Student Services Building > > > > > > East Lansing, MI 48824 > > > > > > [log in to unmask] > > > > > > (517) 432-7541 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Troy Murray > > [log in to unmask] > > http://troymurray.blogspot.com > > > -- Troy D Murray Blog: http://troymurray.blogspot.com/