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Virtualization has benefits for software development too. Since the virtual machine can be copied/moved, I can move my development server which runs on the virtual machine to any other computer, take it home etc, rather than map my drives for remote development. It also allows me to branch the virtual machine, so I can split a virtual machine and run ie6 on one, and ie7 on the other. I can also simulate a whole network on my pc. I can roll back changes, take snapshots of the system and so on. Microsoft seems to be pushing this quite a bit too. They have made a disk image of pre-activated winxp2 + ie6 for app testing available here http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=21EABB90-958F-4B64- B5F1-73D0A413C8EF&displaylang=en The downside is that you need about 2gb of ram, and Virtualpc does make my pc crash once in a while. Vmware seems to be more mature in this regard. Vivek -----Original Message----- From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Richard Wiggins Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:42 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] To Virtualize or not Seems like virtualization would be an excellent topic for a future face-to-face NAG meeting. Funny to see the Virtual Machine idea, which IBM mainframes exploited over 20 years ago, coming back into vogue, on servers, on Intel Macs, etc. /rich On 12/28/06, Troy Murray <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Before starting MSU this month I worked for an insurance company here > in the Lansing area. I was able to move a number of our production > servers to virtualized servers, a total of 8 including Exchange > server, domain controllers, printer server, WSUS server and a few web > servers. I have used both VMware Server, VMware GSX Server and > Virtuozzo for Windows in the past but prefer the VMware Server. A lab > I've done work for in CHM runs their production server (web, sql, > file, print, dc) as a virtual server on top of a Windows host. > Backup is really simplified and so is recovery in the event that the > host server goes down, we just plug the external hard drive into a > workstation, load the VMware Server or Workstation product and "open" > the last backup of the system. > > -t > > > > On Dec 27, 2006, at 5:31 PM, Charlot, Firmin wrote: > > > Virtualization is something that I have been thinking about lately > > but there are so many pros and cons and probabilities and > > possibilities one can find oneself in analysis paralyses very quickly. > > > > > > > > Is there anyone who has taken the leap and virtualized some or all > > their production boxes and if so any advice/pitfalls/benefits that > > you could provide would be greatly appreciated? What are you using > > for your Host server(s) (Open-Source, VMware or Microsoft Virtual > > Server). > > > > > > > > Happy Holidays to all! > > > > > > > > Firmin Charlot, MCSE, A+ > > > > Information Systems Manager > > > > Educational and Support Services > > > > 162 Student Services Building > > > > East Lansing, MI 48824 > > > > [log in to unmask] > > > > (517) 432-7541 > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Troy Murray > [log in to unmask] > http://troymurray.blogspot.com >