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Laurence, 

As Chris mentioned, the need to not use the mail filtering trick to have 
your mail scanned for spam content would be beneficial to users. I do agree, 
but at this time its not easy to implement. It will be considered for a 
possible future enhancement. 

I'm concerned that you're seeing mail go into thin air when forwarding with 
filters to your mail server that is down. I haven't heard of any complaints 
of that nature, and would like to work with you to try and get some data on 
the messages you're missing. Hopefully you have some recent examples, if not 
any further data that you could provide me would be helpful and appreciated. 

The filtering system should be detecting that your system is down and queue 
the message for a future retry in delivery. 

 -Ed 

Laurence Bates writes: 

> I would like to add my name to the list of Admins who would like to see the
> Computer Lab. filter mail before forwarding it to departments.  There may be
> an easy work around for this.  I currently have my own mail spam-checked by
> the MSU mail system and then forwarded using a simple filter (i.e. anything
> greater than 0 kb)to my mail server.  This works well but only if my mail
> server is up and running.  If for any reason it is not, the current MSU Mail
> filter just sends the mail into thin air and I end up losing it.  If the MSU
> mail filter could somehow check that the mail has arrived then it would meet
> my needs quite well. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edward R Kryda [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:33 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] MSU Spam Handling 
> 
> Chris,  
> 
> I agree with you that processing spam before forwarding would be a 
> beneficial change. There's definitely a good size of the mail.msu.edu users 
> that are setting up filters to do so, which is a known issue of confusion.  
> 
> Unfortunately our current architecture wouldn't allow this to be a straight 
> forward change. Your suggestion is on our list of possible future 
> enhancements.  
> 
> Thanks,
> Ed  
> 
> Chris Wolf writes:  
> 
>> Okay, thanks, I'll look forward to that.  
>> 
>> One change that might help us would be to put mail through the spam
>> processing before auto-forwarding is done. Not knowing the architecture of
>> the system, I don't know if this would be a straightforward change or a
>> major change. Right now the only way for a user to accomplish this is to
>> create a filter to forward mail, which is a little complicated for some
>> users to do.    
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Richard Wiggins [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 7:50 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] MSU Spam Handling  
>>> 
>>> The mail team is constantly evaluating approaches to 
>>> improving spam filtering.  Yes, they have a specific 
>>> improvement they hope to launch as soon as a week from 
>>> Thursday.  This particular improvement should not be 
>>> user-visible, unless someone is using a mail client or a 
>>> mailer that associates itself with the IP address of one of 
>>> mail.msu.edu's servers, which it should not do.  We're 
>>> working on an announcement.  
>>> 
>>> /rich  
>>> 
>>> On 12/20/06, Chris Wolf <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> > I've been told that the MSU mail team is planning an upgrade of the 
>>> > anti-spam system.  Can someone give us a preview of what the plans 
>>> > are, what will be different for users, and when this might 
>>> happen?  Thanks.
>>> >  
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>   
> 
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