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A couple notes:  When this happens, you can be sure the rogue DHCP server
is somewhere within your building, due to the way routing works on campus.
There are a couple minor exceptions, but for a general rule, that works.
If you're unable to locate it given the information returned, do call the
ACNS Help Desk at 432-6200, and they can enter the information in a
problem report.  They're pretty familiar with the process - we have
received at least 40 such complaints over the past couple weeks, including
2-3 in staff/academic areas.  We can often confirm the presence of a
rogue server through our logs, and can trace it to the switch port
within the building, at least for the buildings where we manage the
internal network, which is a large majority.

Doug



On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 05:26:28PM -0400, STeve Andre' wrote:

> Thanks to all for their suggestions.  For the life of me, I did not see the
> line in ipconfig that showed where the DHCP server was.  Now that I
> have that, I can hunt it down, next time it appears.  It's gone, now...
> 
> Thanks again for all the ideas.
> 
> --STeve Andre
> Political Science
> 
> On Tuesday 30 August 2005 17:50, George J. Perkins wrote:
> > On Tue, 30 Aug 2005, STeve Andre' wrote:
> > >    A user told me they couldn't get on the net after lunch today.
> > > When they booted up they wern't on the net.
> > >
> > >    Looking at the machines IP address I see 192.168.1.x.  Doing
> > > a release and then renew usually, but not always results in getting
> > > the proper 35.10 address.
> > >
> > >    I'll bet that its a student machine, or someone installed a wireless
> > > access point backwards, etc.  My question is, whats the best way
> > > to hunt it down?
> > >
> > > Thanks, STeve Andre'
> > > Political Science
> >
> > It depends on what OS the mis-directed system is running.
> >
> > If it is Windows XP, open a text window (Start > Run > "cmd", if it's not
> > in a menu somewhere) and type "ipconfig /all" -- along with the bogus IP
> > address it's received, there will be an entry for "DHCP Server" -- the IP
> > address of the system which gave it that IP address.  You may then possibly
> > be able to ping that IP address, and if it responds, the MAC address may be
> > in your arp table ("arp -a", both under WinXP and Linux/ Unix).  Doug
> > Nelson or other ACNS network folks might then be able to tell where in your
> > building (plus or minus) this MAC address is connected.  This won't always
> > work for various reasons, but it works often enough to be worth a try.
> >
> > I think Windows 2000's "ipconfig /all" also lists "DHCP Server" but I have
> > no readily available test system just now.
> >
> > There are DHCP tools available under Linux, one of which, "dhclient", has
> > a debugging mode, set by command line flags, where it will send out a DHCP
> > request and then lists the responses it gets without actually acting upon
> > them. There may be other similar tools for Linux and for the various other
> > BSD and Unix flavors.  I found this handy once in a case where the campus
> > DHCP server _usually_ beat the rogue DHCP server to issuing the address,
> > so the false IP assignments were really rare and random, but this tool
> > allowed me to see both responses, quick (campus) and slow (rogue), for a
> > given DHCP request.

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