There are a great many tech issues where it would be better for the campus to be the organization rather then the department or unit. Site licensing for Red Hat, Novell Linux, Ghost, Anti virus, etc. come reaily to mind. One of the basic problems is some vendors require a single point of contact for a site license and we're simply too diverse. This seems like a good NAG meeting topic. Don Bosman Information Technologist Michigan State University, Libraries 100 Library East Lansing, MI 48824 517-432-6123 ex 233 [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Cooke, Tony Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:00 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Alternatives to Dell destops I'm curious about the "two tech minimum" and any limitations on how many systems that must be owned. Frankly, I'm of the opinion that the "organization" should be "MSU", and not the particular college or department, to which everyone (the technical folks anyways) on campus would qualify. Just because someone is the sole tech for their unit of 200 computers doesn't mean that they shouldn't qualify. It seems like this would be an inherent advantage of being part of the larger whole. Does anyone have info on this angle of it? I'd be happy to get a hold of our sales rep and ask questions for the group (if I wouldn't be stepping on toes), but the more background information I have the better. Thanks, Tony Cooke Information Technology Services The Eli Broad College of Business Michigan State University (517) 353-1646 [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Fishbeck, John Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:42 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Alternatives to Dell destops Folks - The Dell self-service program you're interested in is called 'Warranty Parts Direct' (used to be called 'Premier Access'). I happen to think it is a terrific program. We diagnose our own problems, then I go to a Dell WPD web site, log on with my Dell-provided WPD user id, enter the service tag (system identifier) for the system at issue, fill out an online form to order the needed replacement part, and - badda-bing, badda-boom - next morning the replacement part is in my hands. Nothing's perfect. The program is not free, but not unreasonable, either. Dell requires two people to be 'certified' WPD techs, and it costs $160/yr per person to subscribe to the program. And, you have to take these silly, 25 multiple-choice question, online systems knowledge tests each year for each systems category you want to participate in. Annoying, but hardly a show-stopper. The one fee covers as many systems categories as you want to be qualified ('certified') for - desktops, laptops, servers, etc... In short, I find the pluses far outweigh the minuses. Info on the program is available at http://warrantypartsdirect.dell.com/us/ . In addition, I'd be glad to answer questions from people who are potentially interested. Regards, John Fishbeck MSU Physical Plant Computer Systems and Networking Group Phone: 2-2028 -----Original Message----- From: MSU Network Administrators Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter J Murray Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:30 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MSUNAG] Alternatives to Dell destops Please CC this information to the list. I'd like to join this program too. David McFarlane wrote: > Tony, > >> I'm sure it helps that we're Dell Certified shop > > > How do you get that status?? It would make a ***HUGE*** difference to > my satisfaction with Dell if I didn't have to jump through their hoops > every time I called tech support. > > > -- David McFarlane, Research Technology Specialist > Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University > [log in to unmask] www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 > Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652